Technical Ok Moriarity and Stogy are right ! This is what I’m gonna do …

that was from a local supplier . And yes yankee dollar to Canadian maple syrup money with shipping and all the crap involved .

well shit , that’s only $1200 bucks ! Didn’t even think of speedway . Does that include shipping ?


@Stogy your right when you break it down over the life of the car snd the tires it really does work out to not a hell of a lot per year .


@hotrodlane , I’m not looking for approval, just some insight and guidance .

moredoor , 4 door , family hauler , whatever you want to call it it’s not a coupe , but I still think it’s neat . Reminds me of the women I like . Cute faces with a big ol ‘ dump truck of an ass
I have rushed into decisions on my cars in the past and then spent more money in the long run correcting my mistakes as sometime a “ good deal “ can cost double in the long run.

anyways here I go to check out the speedway sight .

 

@VANDENPLAS perhaps speedway is an Alliance vendor...spend money on the membership and save maybe 200...

 

I didn't see them on the List but Coker is...quoted from Alliance section below...You have to buy an Alliance Membership to get the discount...

"One of the first big companies with enough vision and foresight to join the Alliance was Coker Tires. A big thanks goes out to Coker and the folks in Tennessee for their support of not only The Jalopy Journal, but traditional hot rodding as a whole. Their discount varies product-by-product, but most guys will make their Alliance membership dues back by simply purchasing a set of tires. Very aggressive discounts! To get your discount online, simply grab your discount code here (must be a logged in Alliance member to view link) or call Coker up on the phone."

 

If you are going to order Coker bias ply tires you should become a Alliance member here as the discount will save you more than the membership fee. otherwise Summit is also a good Source to buy them from

 

https://www.macsautoparts.com/tire-670-x-15-3-1-4-whitewall-tubeless-universal-48-11767-1.html

 

...@anthony myrick, you're good give me that croissant...

 

Probably comparing apples to oranges (big car VS small car), but...

When I first built my old Sedan Deliv. I got a smokin' deal ($400 including tubes) on these new 650 & 750 x 16 Firestone WWWs. Got them from a buddy who bought them to replace the blackwall radials on his traditional '40 Ford Tudor. He had them on his '40 for one week...hated how they handled and went back to his old radials.


I ran those Firestones for one summer, and hated them too. At least 3 rebalances and half a dozen times on the alignment machine messin' with toe and caster...nothing really helped. It drove so bad, that I had it for sale that first year.
Then, another buddy offered to lend me the tires (radials) and rims off his Model A coupe while he was rebuilding it, mainly to see if they made a difference. HOLY SHIT...my car drove and handled like go cart with those radials...I never looked back, and happily drove it (with radials) for 11 more years.

 

Maybe that's why he wanted rid of them Jack...were they seconds by chance?

I have one tire that's off and I pacified it with beads...now it's not perfect but easy to exceed the Ole speed limit and not know it...

I think they were blems from a car show...so yeah used tires can have issues...better to go new Bias or otherwise...

 

Newer molds? 16 was 1st...mine are 16...I remember reading they came from a car show too possibly seconds...Does Coker Identify Blems?

 

I do both as I have a daily and my Bias experience is uniquely different but absolutely manageable and 50-65 mph could go all day...dry pavement stops no problems...loose gravel roads you have to be careful but even radials are similar in that regard...



675-16...

So @VANDENPLAS maybe 15" are the way to go...

Offset is something you have to consider...especially on lowered cars...what's right?, @Moriarity has a 40 so perhaps he has that info...BUT your suspension may not be the same...for width...do 15 inch rims clear your front discs and is it drum rear?

I guess you want to be away from the fender lip...maybe more so on the front as turning increases the chance of scrubbing the fender...
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I drove radials ( big fat cooper cobras ) on 15” cragars on my 53 Chrysler and that car drove great !!

I had 17” torquethrusts with perreli pzero yellow tires ( low profile tires with super soft rubber , basically running on bubble gum ) and for a land yacht that thing drove incredible .

but I was younger and more into streetrods then !!!!

this car has kinda the best of both worlds , with the body and interior stock , but engine , trans , diff and brakes upgraded . It’s an old school ride that can easily be driven in modern traffic and on the highways etc .


I really do think this car needs WWW as black walls don’t quite fit .

at this point I’m going to keep my stupid 90’s chrome wheels , as they only have 10-15 k on them , the Cadillac caps fit perfectly and they work on my car .

it’s around 2 grand to get the tires up here regardless of vendor .

im going to put a call in to a couple Coker is one and @anthony myrick posted macs
And try to get a hold of speedway

cocker shows no stock back ordered
Speedway and macs shows stock . I’ve waited on back ordered stuff recently that turned into complete bs


Let’s see what happens .

I can get radial www but I’m not sure on the “look”
Most look like a radial with a port a wall glued on !!

not out of the mix entirely , but definitely not option 1 , 2 or 3 at this point !!

thetes a couple guys selling used bias ply firestones ( one set is new old , not driven on ) locally , might buy those just because I’m cheap amd try them , I dunno

 

I will concede that both my buddy and I were running aftermarket dropped axles and perhaps the caster and kingpin inclination were set for a shorter 15" tire, and too far off for a non-forgiving bias ply to adapt

 

Don't discount Port-o-walls...I've used them on 2 of my hot rods with great success. There a seller ( portawallstore ) on Epay that sells high quality Atlas port-o-walls, in lots of sizes, for about $80 for a set of 4.


Considering you already have tires and rims that will work, Port-o-walls can give you the look you want.
Although they say for tubeless tires, I prefer to run radial innertubes in my tires to avoid any slow leak issues.
For under $300 you can get that WWW look.
($80 Porto's, $100+- tubes, $100+- re-mount/balance).
Radials might not be traditional...but Port-o-walls sure are.

Same radial tires, with and without

 

Jack, those are port-o-walls?!

 

I would think that if Port O Walls work for @hotrodjack33 on radials, you could make them work on your bias plies, as the sidewalls don't flex as much as radials.

 

Van has Radials now that he want to run them on with wheelcovers over the OT mags...Jacks are Radials as well

The Bias will be down the road and WWW

 

@Austin kays is running then on his radical t coupe on Bias I believe



https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/my-radical-little-t-coupe.1244443/page-7#post-14392852

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Port-A-Walls ?

I looked into them , everything I’ve read they don’t like to stay on at high speeds , and not exactly cheap either for an experiment.

and I’m still running radials , from what I’ve read they work pretty good on bias ply tires , not so much on radials .

@hotrodjack33 where did you get yours snd what brand ? Did you glue them down ?


I’m counting my sheckles and WWW’S are coming !!

 

Why do I think of Pottys when I hear that mentioned...hmmmmm...

 

Van...post #135...remember Fonzi and re re ru ra read...your answers there...

What happened with Jeff's friend and the skirts?

 

@Stogy

nobody said I was a smart man !

 

ehhhh...nice eyes......just pulling your leg whats worse a flying wheel cover or a flying port o wall? ask Jack if they ever fell off...and I'm sure your not doing smoky burnouts...or Mosport cornering...They have a pretty good rating in reviews...or you can profile your car and accordingly and run the R thingies till the BP thingies arrive

 

Just go get a shitload of white shoe polish and a case of beer and go to town on the sidewall's. One Saturday afternoon and you kill 2 bird's with 1 stone, fresh whitewall's and a hell of a buzz! LOL!!!

 

Correct me if I am wrong , but I can remember as a kid ,my Dad taking me to a tire shop and they had a grinding machine set up on a wheel and were grinding away the black rubber to expose the white rubber underneath , wonder how much white rubber is under a a regular white wall ?? Does somebody still do this ??

 

I think there's threads on it here but man you can paint them too but taking a grinder to 4 tires and cruising at 65/70 mph with the family I'd be worried about Ole hackarama having an anomaly...what's the car and your life worth...again do 2g over 10 years...how much does it cost for the look and the peace of mind?

@wood remover wow a machine that grinds side walls...that never heard of. Tread grooving/shaving they still do in racing...side wall grinding that's done with a legit machine never heard anyone mention such a process...

 

Aren't tires date codes to 5 years ?? 10 year old tire and your insurance could be nullified
Make the car and my life worth nothing .
Seems that's all they do to make a wide white to begin with .

 

I know very little of the processes for making ww's but I thought it not to be a grinding operation. How would lettering applied?...the finish of white wall BPs really has no visual indicators that would suggest a grinding procedure...

Bias Plys don't have Radial 6 year change out issues. They are of different composition. I believe they have DOT numbers but are warranted till life of tread has been met...

These are current warranties and relevant info below noted with the question posed...







Below is a blurb from I suspect Coker at Summit. What I see that is very important to note is the statement "built using safer and more reliable modern materials and techniques"

...I often see flat spots mentioned against these tires and that has been rectified by material changes...




https://www.hemmings.com/hmw/bias-ply-or-radial-tires/

...more required reading...

 

Yes they are Carp. I experimented with them on my wife's old Panel, ran them for 5 year with no problems...except a slow leak-down on 2 of the tires. I'm not sure if it was the wire wheels, or the port-o-walls, but radial inner tubes cured that.

When I got the Cabriolet from @Hamtown Al , it had brand new radials and drove/handled great. No way was I going to blow $1500 to change out those tires.
I've only run this set for one summer so far...and I did have one issue...they are not self-centering and have to be installed carefully/correctly. One of the P-O-Ws on one of my front tires was a little off center and it wouldn't lay flat against the tire...it had to be deflated and recentered.

These Atlas P-O-Ws are heavy/thick enough to remain tight to the tire even at speed...no glue required or recommended.