OK Painters, PPG Concept or Dupont ChromaOne

My old Ford coupe will go to paint soon and I am still not sure which product to use.

I'm talking single stage, non metalic paint.

What do you painters out there think, PPG Concept or Dupont ChromaOne?

Thanks!

 

Most of the really good painters I personally know use the PPG system. I hear from them that mainly because it's more user friendly and less expensive than DuPont. However, NONE of them have ever said anything bad to me personally about DuPont products...in fact a few of them love the products, but since they already have a system in place it's easier to stick with what they know. I have 2.5 gallons of DuPont color and all of them said they would spray it for me without any gripes or h***les...

 

dupont and ppg are ford and chevy. either one will give u a long lasting paintjob.... its just are u a ford or chevy guy? lol

 

I love PPG concept SS. Pricey stuff , but awesmo

 

PPG here. I've had consistancy issues with DuPont in the past, meaning that the product didn't perform the same all the time. At least with PPG I get an expected outcome.

 

Are you painting it yourself?
If not, you trust your painter to paint your car, but not his choice of paint? Why not ask him what he prefers.....

 

as in changes?

ppg has made subtle changes to alot of their products too.

im not much of a fan of either paint line. ill use them here and there. but sikkens would get my vote.

 

i'll second that!

 

Just finished a 41 willis in ppg concept single stage came out great. Stay away form dupont chromaone. I tried it and I found it way to hard to buff out if you want a cut and buffed job. BUT, if you want Dupont try out the chromapremier single stage system. It works like ppg concept but can only be had in solid colors. Tim

 

Both will give a great finish if the prepwork has been done well. But as has been said some painters will be happier to put on the paint they are used to working with due to flash times and knowing how to overcome problems that somtimes ocur

 

Both are good systems.

A little extra info to help get a good durable finish:


1) Plan your paint job starting with the foundation--primer/undercoats. Good undercoats will let the paint do it's job as the topcoat, by not soaking solvents or shifting and shrinking. Like colored pre paint primer/sealers will help with more uniform coverage.

2) Check the formula of the color you choose to see if it is translucent or a good "hider". Poor hiding or covering pigments or colors will require more coats of paint to get coverage and Hiding. Poor hiding pigments or color formulas may not resist UV as well. You will also be applying more solvents/thinners with more coats, which can soak into the undercoats or be trapped in the paint film causing problems drying and hazing. Make sure your undercoats/primers have good or excellent solvent hold out. Watch your flash times between coats if you are using excessive coats to get coverage, and use the proper grade of thinner/reducer.

3) Most companies reccommend at least 2 coats of color (single stage) but for a more durable job plan on at least 1 extra coat and at least 2 extra if you plan to cut and buff. The extra mil thickness of the paint film will add longer life and durability.

4) Most single stage non metallic colors can be clear coated with the manufacturer's compatible clear. This will enhance gloss, durability and workability for buffing and polishing. It can also make repairing and panel spotting easier with much better color blending results.

overspray

 

I've had good luck with Concept

 

i have used both many times. id go with the ppg over chromaone. main reason is setup, the concept sets up like a tradi***ional paint, the c-1 sets odd, as in does nothing for a while, then sets up all at once. also, as said, harder to buff. c-1 is very durable though, and if your painter wants to use it, go for it

i painted the black widow with ppg concept last oct- november and it worked out well, though changed from the original excellent formula.

i personally would use rm-uno over either, but ppg over dupont for the lines mentioned


skull

 

PPG for sure, had consistency issues with dupont, if u want try PPG's new 'Shopline' single stage it does really well and is more reasonably priced....

 

Hey,

What colour are you going with on your single stage refinish project?
A deep based colour like a deep red, yellow or a bleu? If you're looking at a pastel medium based colour why not look for some acrylic enamel in PPG's Delstar line up? "If mixed correctly and shot using the correct reducer, it should require little coloursanding, and only a light polish once the job has flashed. Urethane paint systems with a BB/CC that most guys are coloursanding represent a step backwards from a cost standpoint! One of the top sales points of the acrylic enamel paint systems was that they didn't need to be coloursanded and polished, like the old nitrocellulose and acrylic lacquer systems did. Now the paint company and rep. is laughing all the way to the bank selling you all the **** to basicly do two paint jobs, but you're only getting paid for the one! Once the clear coat in a two stage paint system takes a **** as the ultraviolet blockers brake down, your lookin' at a repaint job! Great if you're selling paint jobs, ****s if your name is on the ***le of the vehicle in question! A single stage finish can be compounded and waxed and will give you more ''bang for the buck'' than the BB/CC system.
Don't get me wrong, urethane bb/cc systems are great for oem repair work, and those ugly street rod finishes with all the clear in 'um, but there isn't anything "traditional" 'bout their looks!

S****ey Devils C.C.
"Spending A Nation Into Generational Debt Is Not An Act Of Comp***ion!"

 

never used ppg .Love chromabase

 

that may be true for solid colors, but u start throwing custom in it, and u need the clear.

 

Between those 2 my vote is for PPG Concept. Great stuff, performs real well. Compatible with a whole slew of PPG clears as well.

While slapping a coat of clear on is nice, I like to mix RTS clear with the RTS S/S, 50/50. I use this in the last 2 coats to enhance the gloss and make it look more translucent and deep, thus more like lacquer. So I usually use 2 coats of S/S, then 2 coats mixed down 50/50.

Also check out PPG Global S/S. I used the stuff once and it was amazing. It uses all different reducers and hardners than the Deltron line which is why I don't use it, but man did this stuff flow like gl***!

 

chromabase and chroma one are 2 different animals. i used and loved chroma base for many years........my 55 sd is painted with it


skull

 

There both good products.. It should work out good for you either way..

 

I work in a large body shop (western star/freightliner) we have both a PPG and a Dupont system. Unlike Automotive shops we spray gallons and gallons of paint all the time.
I really like both systems but when I paint my own stuff I use PPG Concept,my 2 cents

 

You may want to check out autobodyshop.com It's a site for painters and bodymen. Good info there. I used a trick from them using Concept. Same hardener for the color and clear and you mix about 30% clear in the last color coat to get that old lacquer look. Some depth without the wet shiney look of clear coats. Check it out.

 

I know you are just asking between the two brands but my vote has to be for glasurit, I never use anything else.

 

PPG. Have since the Ditzler days and probably always will be.

 

concept all they way

 

i would never go by what body shop does. paint comes down to money. what ever paint company is willing to write them a fat check to use their paint, they will use. yes, the paint manufactures "buy out" shops to sign contracts to use their paint.

 

I've worked in body shops sense 1983 I have never heard or seen this total ********! Don't believe it.P.S. I spray PPG Global every day,I'll never change no matter how big the check is nether will the shops owner.

 

Trinity 145, or HOK,

 

Yeah, what the hell do body shops know about painting anyway?
You KNOW these body shops must get big fat checks from paint companies EVERY DAY in a conspiracy to control the auto paint trade!
/sarcasm

I say PPG for all the reason other's here have given.


regards,
TheLiz