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Ok, so what does "AV8" mean?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by scibjenkins, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. notrod13
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    how far off track can one thread get......

    poopy flavored diaper
     
  2. Dreddybear
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    He is very aware of that ;)

    There's alot of playing around on this thread. It's ok. It happens.
     
  3. scibjenkins
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    From where I come from, a deuce is what some people may call a "turd". Or the scientific term "excrement".
     
  4. Didn't caddy have some large number engines like 12 or 16s at some poinnt?



    Actually in this house especially around election time we call them senators, but I did drop one earlier today.
     
  5. Elrod
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    I wish GERM would respond to this post. He would know the answers.
     
  6. Speaking of flavors I think that it is evident from this thread that AV8s came in a lot of them. It is completely dependent on the builder once you get the basic ingredients in place.

    Something that i have been preaching for a long time is that rods and customs are regional. What is in vogue in one place is not kosher some place else.
     
  7. scibjenkins
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    Well, there seems to be a lot of jokesters poking fun at my question. But really, my original idea of an AV8 was a model A on either deuce rails or A rails with a flathead. Apparently it's a bit more specific than that... anyway, I guess my next build will be purely traditional except for a T-5. Gotta cheat a LITTLE bit I guess :p
     
  8. Elrod
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    Seriously... Don't worry what it's called. Just build what you like. (Tastefully would be extra nice! :D )
     
  9. scibjenkins
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    Ya know, that brings on a whole new set of interesting points. With the age of the internet, styles and regional flavors are morphing at a rapid speed. I think there was article in Rod and Custom discussing that. I believe it was about a shoebox custom built on the east coast ( i wanna say new york ) and being done in a west coast style. I know that's nothing new, but interesting.
     
  10. scibjenkins
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    Yeah, I know it always bowls down to that. I have a very specific idea of what I want to do with it. I just curious to what the term ment in specific.
     
  11. 345winder
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    actually Bishop DID write a book on Av8's ,:D

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  12. scibjenkins
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    Boil? Yeah, boil. God that word looks weird no matter how I spell it... I've been huffing too much Simple Green fumes!
     
  13. dad-bud
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    Seriously scibjenkins - you've got 314 posts (and counting) and you don't know what an AV8 is - you're just ****in' with us, ain't ya?
    Keeps us entertained I guess.
    Cheers.
     
  14. Unless there has only ever been one book written on AV8s then he would have written a book and not the book. Could very well be true. though;)

    Ha color me stupid, you wrote "a book" and my brain read "the book." Well just color me stupid. D'oh.
     
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  15. fryguy
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    In the truest first incarnation traditional sense think of what it would have been like if the v8 in '32 was available in 28-31 for the model A. It would have been a stock model roadster with a flathead V8 in it. Stock body, stock brakes, stock ch***is with a stock flathead v8 in it. It has morphed into many tangents it is today. Model A coupe, 32 frame, multi carbed intake, Kelsey Wires, Hydra brakes, solid wheels any non flathead v8. I'm surprised our brothers from europe have not chimed in as they seem to have a darker black/white line when it comes to traditional terms.


    The pics below are more of a second generation incarnation of the AV8, multi-carbs, aluminum heads, hydraulic brakes with wide 5 wheels and not an original AV8 incarnation. Although very beautiful and traditional, just not original AV8.

    Fryguy

     
  16. Actually it has been that way since the beginning. Cars were even different from one club to the next or one neighborhood to the next in a bigger city. Everyone who is anyone wants to make their own mark on the world. Unless someone is completely void of imagination they don't really want to do an exact copy of someone elses ride.

    As for the sdeuce rails I don't think that it really fits the AV8 mold, it will make for a nice hot rod or jalopy if duece rails are your bag though, and maybe it would fit a pretty loose interpretation of an AV8. A lot of what we see is more often than not a pretty loose interpretation anyway, again imagintion sets in. . .
     
  17. Elrod
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    A guy could have pulled the heavy body off a 32 sedan and plopped a Model A roadster on the already flathead equipped frame, making a soup up in a weekend.. In my opinion, I think this was why Model A bodies ever appeared on 32 rails. Instant flathead upgrade for a roadster body. AND easier than wedging a larger engine into A rails with limited tools.

    But yeah, for this post. Just call AV8s a stock Model A with a flathead.
     
  18. rpu28
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    "What if its a model a with a 350?"

    That would not be an AV8; its correct name is "belly-****on car".
     
  19. TexasSpeed
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    Photographical evidence too! Thanks!
     
  20. Elrod
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    Very cool!
     
  21. TexasSpeed
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    Don't worry about what the purists here think. There's no definite right or wrong way to building a hot rod (did I just say that?) as long as you do it safely. If you're going to build an A on deuce rails with a flathead and a 5-speed, then go for it! There are plenty of good cars on here that you can take notes from and study to figure out exactly what you want. If you want a traditional hot rod, then you came to the right forum for that.
     
  22. hotrod1940
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    In 1932 if it didn't have a B4, it had AV8. :)
     
  23. scibjenkins
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    Thanks Tex! Yeah, I've been looking at your roadster build. VERY impressive! I ran across a 28-29 sport coupe right in my town (very rare I find anything right here). I think I'm gonna make a coupe out of mine however. It rains cats and dogs where I am, all year. We average 67 inches a year, haha.
     
  24. TexasSpeed
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    Thanks! You won't be the first to turn a Sport Coupe into a real coupe. Check out B***' Hemi Coupe thread. Shame you didn't get to me in time as I'm about to sell a pair of quarter window panels to another fella..

    Be sure to put up a build thread so the rest of us can nit-pick about how untraditional your car is. :p
     
  25. scibjenkins
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    Ha! Will do! And I'm another young gun, at 23. But I've gotta finish up my 47 Ford first. That's how the sport coupe came into being. I took out the Flathead which was rebuilt when I bought the car (didn't realize until I tore it apart, SCORE). I would not be able to afford to build a flathead otherwise. Anyway, I'm putting in a MII and 350/350, in fact I just got the crossmember all welded in (original crossmember, not aftermarket, that's gotta be some street cred).
     
  26. scibjenkins
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    Oh, got off point. The drivetrain from my 47 got me thinking I could make a somewhat traditional rod, on the cheap. I even rebuilt all the drum brakes, 3 of the shocks were good, 12 volt coversion. Should make for a sweet little rod!
     
  27. scibjenkins
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    After clunking that 3 speed around for a while, I'm willing to see what I could do with a 5 speed. 2 WHOLE MORE gears AHH!
     
  28. AV8: TO PILOT A VESSEL, TO FLY ,,,, A FLYING A,,,, Doh!!!!!, Homer Simpson
     
  29. scibjenkins
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    I was reading the two threads by Flatred53 and soggman. Both made coupes out of sport coupes, but Flatred's was made from pieces of a special coupe. Yeah, I know I'm not being original in that regard. But this sport coupe was MUCH more in my price range, then trying to buy a coupe for 10x as much. And I'm just stubborn enough to make it work.

    This is what I'm starting with, should be a challenge!
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=745653
     
  30. J.B.
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    A-V8 - Late 1930's-1940's slang word for a hot rod 1928-31 Ford roadster with a Ford or Mercury V8. It initially had a Model A frame and body, not a 1932 frame.

    After the rumbling years around the war and going in to the 1950's, the A-V8 cars lived on. Now using other makes of V8's, like different overhead V8's. And believe it or not! Other bodies than roadsters!!!

    So being strict, I can't call my two flathead powered model A roadsters on 1932 frames A-V8's. They are 1932 hot rods with model A bodies. But the last I heard was that they even started calling 1932 framed cars with model A bodies A-V8's... Crazy, huh? :D

    So, now I guess I have two A-V8's... or??? :confused:


    On a sidenote, when I wrote A-V8 Boogie I had a model A framed A-V8 roadster, ha ha... :p
     

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