Ok, so what does "AV8" mean?

Too continue our never ending quest for answers check my latest post DEUCES WILD. A V-8 had a lot to do with the Deuce name.

 

Sounds like I was bit puffed up with self-importance at the time, Mart. It's been my understanding since I was a youngster that AV8 identified a Model A with a Ford/Mercury flathead V8. The term was intended to be descriptive rather than exclusive. I recall '32 ch***is with Model A bodies simply referred to in common conversation as roadsters; the hybrid was obvious. And 1932 Ford based hot rods were referred to as '32s nearly as often as they were called Deuces.

The strictness of the original AV8 designator seems less important with time. I do, however, draw the line at Ford/Mercury and even French-block motors as being the only ones worthy of the AV8 sobriquet. But that's just me . . .

Mike

 

All I've seen are roadster AV8's posted so far. Can they be coupes as well? I ***ume yes.

 

A lot of evolution has happened since the old AV8 hot rod times. The evolution to "street rod" sums up a lot of the later modifications of old Fords in general but it also generally includes ANY old car modified with later running gear or what not. The Ford V8 (L-head valve in block or "flathead" as we affectionately or maybe not so affectionately refer to them) was the only affordable V8 motor for hot rods back in the original time frame. Nobody else made an affordable one till after the overheads came out. Most rodders had to wait until an OHV V8 ended up in the salvage yard before they could afford that in 1950 so the flatties were around for quite a while longer.

 

Sorry for the late response. I was working on my truck. I suppose the traditional color of a gayv8 would be the color of skidmarks.

 

coupe?
mercury V8
Lincoln column shift

 

^ this

 

A craw is the first part of a bird that the food goes to before it goes into the stomach. It will contain little bits of gravel or sand to grind up the food so it can be digested in the stomach. Also called the gizzard in a chicken. Bet you didn't know what you were eating when you ordered gizzards from your favorite chicken fast food place. If something sticks in your craw, you might swell up and die from lack of nutrition.

 

^^^that is why its good to have old farts around. You learn something everyday.

 

I'm building a Av8 now, but the body I plan on using is ****. I've got a lead on a T body of some sort, it rests in the attic of some garage I'm told. My question is: What do you call a T body on an A frame powered by a flathead?

 

You're being dyslexic, Aaron, it rains 75-85 inches of rain a year, about 300 feet south of you...so now it's gonna be a coupe?

 

That being the case would it have an after, or a now?

Well pre lost generation you wouldhave called it Smmoooooth.

 

I asked this question to an old rodder that grew up in the Pomona area, working around Blairs and running with many of the old names that we've all seen for years, his answer to the AV8 is a modal A body set on the 32 frame and motor, Elrod had it back in post #86, why, because the 32's were heavy and the A's were light, engine and drive train were already there so the body swap was fairly easy.

 

I thought Ford didn't have a V8 till '32?

 

Common guys.. I don't think anyone has answered the real question here though...

What's an AV8?











..... I think we have heard the answer, and I don't think the original poster is silly at all for asking. Everyone is new to this hobby at some point. I do think it silly that this simple answer is past 100 posts.

 

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Sorry for the late response. I was working on my truck. I suppose the traditional color of a gayv8 would be the color of skidmarks.


Not many seem to know what an AV8 is or when and why a 32 is called a deuce. And you call yourselves traditional rodders?

By the way a gayv8 would most likely be Mary Kay pink.
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Yep but no one even tried to answer my question about an Ardun headed flathead, I mean it is a flathead at its core but it is a valve in head engine. I guess it sounded like a loaded question but it was just a question after all.

 

****** please read my latest thread DEUCES WILD and give the definitive correct answers. Most of us know what an AV8 is/was. Inquiring minds are yearning to know. Good nite.
Wasn't an Ardin headed flat head simply a flathead Ford with Ardin made heads?

 

yes but is it still a flathead once you upgrade it to valve in head.

AV8 is actually pretty easy, it is or was at one time an A bone with a flatty. Deuce on the other hand is a little harder. First one would need to determin when the monicer first came about then determin who or what kind of people coined the phrase.

If the old man was still alive I could ask him for his insites, but he wasn't born until '21 so that would have made him only 11 when Deuces came about, if it was an immediate thing he maybe wouldn't remember.

Oh I did check in on the thread but I should really take a nap so I probably won't read the entire thread until tomorrow.

 

If Vern and I had known of your dad's expertise we surely would have contacted him to help us with our book. We had only our own experiences to trade on, plus those of our mentors who became involved in hot rodding in the '40s, one before Pearl Harbor, the other at the end of WWII. Both were well-known builders/racers.

If you have any issues with what we have said in our book, please contact me. My understanding of hot rodding from when I was a kid was that it's about investigating, learning, doing, and sharing -- not who was first. Being first was important only when it was the one who applied all the shared information better than everyone else.

Mike Bishop
aka AV8
Santa Rosa, California

 

Yup.

 

"Hot rodding as we know it is the culmination of a whole lot of people trying a whole lot of different things over a very long period of time and a very vast expanse of realestate. A lot of people were doing there own thing and didn't have a clue that anyone else was even involved other then the guy maybe one county over."

This is quite a contradiction to the H.A.M.B. induced explaination of "traditional".

 

Ok, so what does "AV8" mean?






It means 130 replies to something that might be obvious. It means different things to different people. It means veggie juice (as already mentioned). It means, ahh ferget it...

 

Model A with a flattie.

 

Vern and the old man crossed paths, the Ol' Man was grinding cams in the '30s, as I recall from what I have read Mr Tardell pretty much came on the scene in the mid '50s. He is an accomplished builder and I have not nor will I slight him one bit, not today or after today. I don't doubt that something that the old man said at one time or another found its way into the book albeit inadvertently.

I have no issues with anything that is written in any of the publications. I do take issue with someone who was not even there saying that they wrote "The Book" when in fact all they did was write a book. I am sure that I don't take issue with anything published in the book in question.

To say that one wrote the book in literal terms is a true statement when one is talking about a book and that is all. Figuratively as language is normally spoken to say that one wrote "The book" is to say that one paved the way or was one of the establishing figures on a subject or practice.

The thing to remember is that from an engineering standpoint a pedestal is a pretty wobbly piece of architecture. If I were to find myself standing on one whether I climbed up there myself or someone put me up there I would do all within my power to get off of it.

Getting back to it I have no problem with the book and if you would read what has actually been written instead of listen to some little groupie telling you that the '****** is bad mouthing you you would know that.

What I had originally said is that in hot rodding no one actually wrote The Book, we are all just pieces of it. Some like Mr Tardel no doubt account for entire chapters while others are just a phrase or two or as in my case maybe just a bit of punctuation. I stand by what I have said and I doubt that you or anyone else can bring compelling argument to the contrary.

 

Beeno, You ever get lost in what your saying? Boy, I sure do...

 

Benno, *******ising a quote from "blazing saddles", sometimes you use your tongue prettier than a $20 *****.
Paul