[ QUOTE ] Hell, I'm just gonna drop Cornfield's intake on a stock S-10 or Camaro motor, hook it up to a TH350 tranny...and drive the thing for a while!! (Wonder what it'll sound like through open lake pipes??? ) [/ QUOTE ]Do the words Farm Tractor mean anything
Fat Hack, you are one strange little man....I had one in a lwb s-10 p/u that wouldn't have pulled a greasy string out of a cat's ass...you'd better gear it about 4:10 and run an overdrive... But, if you are determined to do it...here's a tip...2.8's that came in Fiero's had factory finned aluminium valve covers...they used to be pretty easy to find...might not be so easy anymore. Brian
FH, you have chosen a different engine to use for sure. I wonder why you are going with a turbo 350 and the adapter when you can run a 700R4 bolted directly to the 2.8. The 700R4 has a lower first gear ratio to help the smaller engine. Put a real low gear in the back (like 4.56 or so) and still have the advantage of OD for freeway cruising. You can probably get an old S-10 with the body rusted away and swap the 2.8/700R4 combo in as one unit. You could use that S-10 rearend as well. Change the gears to the low ones I mentioned. Sell the front clip to a HAMB'er for a few bucks. Or why not run a 2.8 with the 5 speed trans? Do you want automatic only?
I guess if you are stuck on this mill, then a for sure thing to put in is a Citation X-11 cam. A friend of mine had one back in university, and that thing would spank a new Z-28 off the line. His was carbed too if I remember correctly. Again, though, the cranks are kind of weak in them.....
FER CRYIN' OUT LOUD, MAN!!! Fat Hack, you can have the six I have for free; just come and get it!! Or, at my workplace, we have a COMPLETE 3400 motor/trans out of a '96 firebird that the boss would 'prolly damn near give ya. My '87 S-15 Jimmy had a 208 liter peice of crap thet caught fire. Know what I did? Dass rite, 350/350. PM me if you are interested. Pete
lessee, ran it out of oil, overheated numerous times and would STILL whip yer monte.... did ya EVER connect the OTHER 4 plug wires? that monte musta been a REAL piece..... oh well, never try and teach a pig to sing....(as i sit here shaking my, uhh, head) i think i'll bookmark this page and wait untill i hear bitching about the turd, uh, i mean "engine" and i use that term loosly... lotsa luck! if ya need any more adviceto ignore, don't heasatate to ask
The 3400 will accept all of the gofast stuff for the 2.8, plus ya get better cam timing and you can still put a dizzy in it. GM mentioned an MSD part in one of their books. Maybe your local speed shop can locate it for you. The F body should have a 4L60e trans too, no? That bell would be smaller than the sbc style and may clear your floors with ease! An S10 rear should be cheap to get. Man this ones gona be easy with that little package! Weren't those 3.4s ratedat some where around 160 HP with the crappy iron manifolds?
Dunno 'bout all that. This 3400 came out of a late Firebird that was tagged in th lf fender. The boss bought it with 44,000 miles on the clock. I spent three days strippin' the car so he can have a 7 sec. "street car". Just gotta ask him what it's gonna take so 'Hack can have a high tech drivetrain. Hell, the rearend is sittin there too!
I have an alloy head mill in the shop, it weighed in at just over 250 lbs with no intake plenum but the accessory drive aluminum bracket cluster f%&*k was present. Probably shoulda run that instead of the quad4 but v6s can never look as good.
Hack, I just got off the phone with the people from the HOME. They assure me that you will be treated well and your thearapy won't begin until your READY. In fact they related to me that if they put you into a program too soon and you're not in a mental state to accept the HELP it could retard your progress in the program. I assured them there was plenty of retardation already present so They are prepared to GO SLOW. Now I want you to step away from the 2.8, go over to the Lazy Boy, sit down and recline. When they knock on the door just go peacefully, I promise it won't hurt. We'll all be here when you get out, er, I mean back. LOVE, Frank
BANG YOUR HEAD!!..mental health will drive you mad...sorry, can't get that old Quiet Riot song out of my head now.
A 2.8 in anything is not cool. This is the motor city, I'm sure you can do better than a engine that doesn't even make a good CORE. Take the engine off the bike it will be faster and WAY more dependable.
Hack, I detect some reluctance on your part (about the home) and am prepared to sweeten the pot. If, after a couple of weeks I get a positive report on your progress I'll send you a magazine (your choice but if it's got naked women i get to "READ" it first). I owe you one and this will great way to pay you back. Frank
I think you are mistaken choosing to use this motor. I think the lack of tourque would be very dissapointing.But if you insist-Well...... Hack I have what ya need[more than a hole in your head!]I have a fresh lo mile [complete overhaul] 2.8 v6 from a 1981 celebrity. it has a two stage two barell carb and an HEI one wire /[non computer] distributor.Do have the bell hsg and flywheel for a stick/clutch pressure plate too. sorry- I have my loot in it or it would be free.....TRADES? OR 150.dollars/plus actual freight.AND I STILL SAY IT WOULD SUCK AND DO NOT DO IT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
You guys are being really hard on the boy, dontcha think? I had a roommate in college that had a 2.8 in his Grand Prix, and it moved out pretty good. They weighed in at 3200 pounds, so it'd be right on par with the Chevy. And almost double the Hp. So, in THEORY, it is a LOGICAL choice, but since when does LOGIC make SENSE? Jay
Yeah, and the car hopped curbs and parking blocks with the best of them and kept on going! That must mean it has a low profile oil pan! Something to consider, anyways...
Gotta admit, Hack, I had a buddy in high school with a 2.8- 5 speed Fiero with no cats (gotta love Michigan's smog laws) that hauled ass! It went 13.90's at the strip with a stock motor!! But that car also only weighed 13 lbs. Never mind, don't use that crappy v6.
When I was in the Philippines in the seventies, I knew of a 56 caddy with a 4cyl diesel. "WHIPLASH CITY" compared to the chevy 2.8
By Nutbush City, and around Detroit Rock City. But nowhere near "We built this city on rock and roll". Thats somewhere else. Jay
just you wait, my 216 will be bad ass someday... when I win the lotto, and ... the WAYNE catalog I just got has alot of goodies in it! Jay
I work at a chevy dealership and i own two 3.1s. 3.1s and 2.8s are damn near the same. They are both GREAT motors, I have 287,000 miles on one and the only thing I ever did to it was replace the rear main seal. It runs GREAT still. I have another one with 157K and it runs great, nother ever done to it. As long as u keep oil and water in them they are REALLY good motors. AS for the 3.4s... my opinion from workin on them, THEY SUCK MAJOR DICK!!!! I HATE EM.. they are peppy little bastards though. I'd go with a 3.1 outa a f-body. Fuel injected an all, they have more HP then the 2.8s with carb thats in the s-dimes. I love the 2.8 and 3.1s I don't care what ANYONE says. Cool or not they can take some abuse.
I bought an 86 Ciera new for the old lady, ran great until I went overseas for 6 months and she never changed or checked the oil. Big rap at 125K. Put in a Fiero motor that showed 98K. Eventually gave the car to my son who drove it all over the US until he got transferred to Germany 2 years ago. Not much body was left but the 2.8 was still running great at roughly 225K. The one thing I didnt see mentioned in this thread is comparing FWD to RWD for HP at the wheels. FWD wins by a mile. Another car I had that literally flew was a 3.3 in a 94 Buick Skylark, FWD of course. But I will have to agree with other comments, it wont move that Chevy very well, you will lose a lot of the power it has in the RWD process. Be different, put in one of those 350 Olds or Buicks you keep talking about or even a 60's V6 225.
[ QUOTE ] I work at a chevy dealership and i own two 3.1s. 3.1s and 2.8s are damn near the same. ....... AS for the 3.4s... my opinion from workin on them, THEY SUCK MAJOR DICK!!!! I HATE EM.. they are peppy little bastards though. I'd go with a 3.1 outa a f-body. Fuel injected an all, they have more HP then the 2.8s with carb thats in the s-dimes. I love the 2.8 and 3.1s I don't care what ANYONE says. Cool or not they can take some abuse. [/ QUOTE ] I thought the 3.4 was almost the same exact motor as the 2.8 & 3.1. Why does it suck so bad? Are you talking about the camaro version or one of the FWD versions?
'Hack- I hope all goes well-m but I have a question.....does a 2.8 pulling a 2700 pound front wheel drive have an easier job than same motor pulling a 3000 pound rear wheel drive car?Not concerned with the weight difference as much as the loss of power in the differentials .I say it would have better power in a frt wheel than a rear end car.????
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