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Technical Old Mr. Gasket Pontiac V8 Asbestos, copper head gaskets, can't find info!!!!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ironmonger, Dec 18, 2014.

  1. Ironmonger
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    I bought these for use on my 389. I tried to find info on them but couldn't find anything, no doubt an old Mr. Gasket catalog would help :) Can anybody chime in here? how good were they? era they were made, etc. thanks!
     

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  2. A lot of their old stuff isn't really on the internet at all. I went on a related adventure myself with that group a few years back...with some ancient Lakewood parts needed. Mr. Gasket group owns them too.

    If no one here pops on that gasket number for you. Give them a call during the week. If you get someone on the line....they do have all of their old paper catalogs available in whatever form that they use. While it wasn't a Mr Gasket part....they hooked me up quicker then I did. 1-216-658-641 is their number. Good luck.
     
  3. Ironmonger
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    Thanks. I love the old speed stuff, then again, who on here doesn't.:cool:
     
  4. Ironmonger
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    Nobody has seen these before??????
     
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  6. txturbo
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    Ive seen them....but never used them. I only use Felpro.
     
  7. stimpy
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    same here , IIRC they are hard to get a complete seal unless the block and head was machined a certain way ( specific roughness)
     
  8. Joe H
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    You will be better off with a Felpro set and keep these hanging on the wall. There is no advantage to using them and they are hard to seal up. Jim Butler Performance sells a OEM type steel gasket if you want to go that route, and even those are hard to seal with out the proper finish on the decks.

    Joe
     
  9. Shaggy
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    Nothing wrong with them and they are old traditional parts, i'd rock them.
     
  10. 56sedandelivery
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    ASBESTOS!!!!! Shaggy, I'm sure you've seen the TV commercials about Asbestos related lung cancer and the like. I would not touch them myself; 32 years in healthcare as an X-Ray/CAT Scan Tech., and I saw hundreds of lung cancer patients. Leave them in the skin package, and buy a new set of Fel-Pro's. BUT, if you do decide to use them, do the job outside, in the wind, wearing a mask and rubber surgical type gloves, then wash your clothes and shower (even though it might not be time for the annual shower). We met when I sold you an overdrive Saginaw 3-speed and threw in a Saginaw 4-speed. I'd hate to hear you got sick. I know this seems overboard, especially when ALL brake shoes were formally made with Asbestos, insulation was Asbestos, and many other uses. Just concerned. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
  11. Shaggy
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    56sedadeliv I know about that stuff, my grandma had issues from working in the shipyards during ww2, but small exposure like that i personally wouldnt worry about.

    Damn it you reminded me, i gotta dig that trans out and finish it, unfortunately i'm going different directions in my rigs, so even when i get it togather it's gunna get throw under a bench
     
  12. Ironmonger
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    What years were they made, so I can find an old catalog they are in? :)
     
  13. Airborne contaminant. Don't snort breakfast thru the nose off 'em, and whatever you do DON'T SUCK THE TAILPIPE when assembled. lol

    Handle safe, per se....if respected. Fibrosis develops upon particulate inhalation, medically speaking. Don't sweat it. Sure clean hand installation is possible. Don't rub 'em all over your face, or lick 'em. Open the package outside. No bomb squad needed.

    Can't believe no info yet. Sure you have good gaskets. 13:1 compression, with non spec'd pieces....questionable. Machined surfaces, 9-10:1 compression ? I'd rock 'em too.
     

  14. I always wonder about asbestos, I have had a lot of asbestos training over the years and it is a crap shoot whether it is going to get you or not as far as I am concerned. I will say this, it is not likely that anyone is going to come down with mesothelioma by bolting on a set of head gaskets. If it is a real concern then all of you should tell me goodbye now, I grew up with asbestos brakes, and asbestos insulation, and as recently as 2003 I removed some asbestos insulation from some duct work in abuilding that I worked in.

    All that said those gaskets are worth way more as wall hangers then they are as head gaskets. Good head gaskets are too cheap to use those and never ever see them again. ;)
     
  15. stimpy
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    I remember selling those in 1984 to a guy who had a supercharged 455 on alky and we could order them direct from Cleveland ( Lake park??) I wish I never let the catalogs go .
     
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  16. Ironmonger
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    OK, very cool, I will start poking in that direction ;) I love old catalogs and am starting a collection!
     
  17. stimpy
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    ya, your best bet is to look in the old catalogs to find them the catalogs I had had the instructions on how to put them on in the back . I know that MrG discontiued a lot of the pontiac stuff later on .

    being in Chicago I was lucky as we had the Victor gasket plant and Felpro plant local and could get them in a day .so we didn't sell a lot of Mr G gaskets , and the supercharged guys would use copper shim or steel shim
     
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  18. Ironmonger
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    Which catalogs per say? I am not familiar with the titles of what I need to be looking in, thanks:)
     

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