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Technical Old Pontiac heads on sixties block

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Essex_29, Sep 20, 2018.

  1. Essex_29
    Joined: Dec 27, 2007
    Posts: 145

    Essex_29
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    from Finland

    I have a '59 389 (block #532000) with a tri-power setup (intake #536194) for my '57 Chieftain. I wonder if anyone knows if a later block can be used with the old reverse flow water pump and heads.
    Also the heads appear to be 1958 heads (heads #528511), according to a list I found they've been produced for 347/370 ci engines. My engine pings and knocks like crazy, so I guess I have a compression ratio issue.
    Again, does anyone know if these heads can be enlarged to be used with the 389 block?

    I'm going to use a TH 700R4 transmission, and the thought occured to me, to use a newer block to better fit the tranny. Or maybe an adapter would make more sense?

    My aim is to build a nice driver engine, as I'm using this car as my daily driver during summer. For the time being it's powered ny an '87 TPI engine out of a GTA, which has done good service during eight summers and tens of thousands of miles. A real Pontiac engine with tri-power would look great and sound much better too.
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    Pic snapped at Kulture Shock Car show in Lakeport CA in 2010, yours truly having an interesting talk about... Ahem... carbs with Miss Kulture shock of the previous year.
     
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  2. sevenhills1952
    Joined: Mar 14, 2018
    Posts: 956

    sevenhills1952

    My wife is here...Pontiac aficionado.
    She suggests staying with 389 heads matched for that block (59-60 rooster tail motor).
    Otherwise a complete swapover to the more modern 400 (67-70s) with a turbo 400, bearing in mind wiring will be different-starter. #670 head is best (67) for 3-2 setup. 65,66,67 389 intake will bolt on.
    #670 head depending on piston dish would be about 10:1, so you may want a thicker head gasket or slightly dished piston to shoot for 9-9.5:1 daily driver, pump gas.

    She also mentioned you could cc your head now to calculate compression ratio, but it's going to be as you thought way too high.
     
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  3. Yes you could change heads and front cover ect and reverse cool a newer mill. However It would not be any improvement. And If you did get a later 389 block you would likely be better off with the 1959 389 reverse cooled heads.
     
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