Projects on the bandwagon Heyitsnate's 36 5w build

Glad you´re going kustom style Nate.Does it mean there will be a roof chop as well? I´m really looking forward to see what you´re planning for the frontend.Keep it up.

 

Thanks kenneth! I'm planning a very sneaky chop, where you really have to see a stock roof beside it to notice.nothing too crazy, and my ride height is not too extreme either.

 

okay. now that the rear trunk rusty **** is out, it's time to get busy. i started with 19 gauge sheet and got some measurements from bradley and my old stuff. i re-used a hammerform to make the edges that meet the wheelwells, then applied a coat of dye. next i scribed the layout. i rolled a step where it kicks up. i left the sides of the kickup unbroken ,this will come into play in the last step.

i laid out some more pieces and my buddy josh broke them into c-channel

 

i marked the back of the trunk pan and pre-stretched the bead lines from the back with a body hammer. honestly i prefer the planishing hammer for this but i wanted to show that this stuff can be done with basic tools. (i did use a bead roller but you could easily make beads with roundbar and a hammer)


then i used a bench vise to slowly rock the kickup into shape little by little, then used a crescent wrench to form the taper that meets the inner tailpan. the crack will be filled and welded. i'm either going to use a 1927 cowl vent or 36 glove box door for sending unit access, but that's another day.

 

now that thats out of the way, back to the c-channel. these are the sides of the trunk floor that sort of become the subrails along the wheelwells. by this time i was in full-tilt boogie mode, so excuse the lack of pics. one side the flange is 1/2" where it meets the wheelwell, the other side was left long. i used a shrinker and stretcher to form the shape , then i carefully broke the edge again where it dips and this will spot weld to the main trunk floor. hope my explanations make sense.

 

Well executed!

 

It's Telekenfun here, as a fellow 36 Ford custom builder, I have to send accolades to Kenneth 31, Nate and Nitro for all your outstanding work. My 36 was a running, driving car with only a leaky top, rusty floors and a rotten tailpan. For you all who take 36 Ford "s****s" and fresh flat stock and recreate 36 coupes, none of us "HAMBERs" can commend you enough. Because of all your effort as well to post your progress on this forum, you can't help but elevate the build standards for the rest of us. Had I taken more than a cursory interest in JJ/HAMB five years ago I would have done many things differently. Although mine is now dis***embled for painting, I had it on the road in mockup mode for the summers of 2011 & 2012. Prior to that I took very few process pictures as you all know how involved we can get. But because of your efforts I feel obliged to make my contribution to the build blogs. So in the next couple weeks I hope to start a build blog on the re***embly of my 5 window. I'm unsure as how to catagorize mine since it has post 64 underpinnings while striving for the Old School exterior. I"ve tried to tip my hat to "Neil Emory" my favorite customizer. Though my comments are focused toward 36 builders, all the Hambers who have taken on such builds and customizing deserve our commendation and encouragement. If it loads properly I installed a picture of my coupe in the raw metal as my avatar to serve as my credentials. Best Regards and good luck in all your endeavors. KB aka telekenfun

 

i'm still here. also, so is swap meet season here. i've been busy questing for nicer goods. the very best metalwork is that which you do not have to do....

 

Nice score Nate.Like the grafitti

 

aint that the truth, nice score

 

It says coupe, its a sedan door haha..

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Nate, Are you on the hunt for better doors for a 5w? I have the ones from my 5w, they are whole, complete with gl***, regulators, latches and quite rust free and still have the black lacquer paint on them. I think I even have inside door panels. I used longer "Tudor" doors on my build. I'll be selling off the unneeded parts of mine eventually, but if you want to have a look at them let me know and I'll dig them out and take pictures of them sooner. Best Regards and good luck with all your endeavors. KB aka telekenfun

 

i just picked up the last door i need, but i'm always looking for nice 36 stuff...i'm parts collecting for another! can you pm me more info? thanks!

 

i finally got a radiator and inner grille, and the back is far enough along for now. my plan now that the bumper/ body mounts in back are done is to line up the front sheetmetal and fenders, that way i have all my key points aligned before i tackle attaching the body to subrails. i scored some new headlight stands that look really straight, and compared them. both of mine were probably tweaked from a prior front end impact. the only way to tell for sure is to align the grille and fender extensions to the inner grille. after a lot of shrinking, stretching, hammering and working flanges i got everything to bolt together well and measure nice from center . the furthest i had to drift a hole was 1/8th inch. not bad.

i really,really really hate relief cuts, but it was necessary. too much shrinking and stretching would have been worse.

still some little adjusting and finishing to do, but i'm happy with the measurements.

 

EXACTLY as i thought. the gap here matches the difference between the old and new headlight stands. all in all i'm super glad to have a point of reference now. the sooner i get this all lined up and pretty the sooner i get to pull some grille tricks!!!

 

Looks great Nate. Front clip looks to be in really good shape. I think I took mine off and on about a dozen times before I got everything to line up the way I wanted it to. Good luck. Cant wait to see her all together.

 

It used to not be in good shape. Lots of time . Gaps just in these four pieces used to be 2" off in some places , from damage. The flanges were folded over backwards and creased across the front!

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NICE.Congrats on the inner grill.Finding one in that good shape is hard.I don´t have one for mine but since I´m gonna put on a LaSalle grill I think it´ll be just as easy to custom build one my self. You´ve done a great job there Nate.Keep it up.....Kenneth.

 

Very nice work...

 

Aligning the front sheet metal is difficult enough, accident damage or not; even the
factory was inconsistent!

Lookin good! (Nice grille, too)

 

Nate, Good on you for taking all those disparate pieces and ***embling a complete grill and fender ***embly. From my own experience, I'm sure your comments on the difficult were a true understatement. On mine with only evidence of minor fender-bender damage,I fought a vertical twist of the grill centerline compared to the body for several days. I had to set the hood tops on and aligned to the cowle, loosen up all the fender mounts and rack everything until I got the top center tip of grill in line with the hood/bullnose. Then I had to rack the lower inner grill until everything lined up with a Harbor Freight vert laser line. Even a minor fender-bender can rack everything out of alignment. I hope yours looks straight and square when everything is bolted up tight. Making a new grill treatment may be easier than trying to make an original look right. Best Regards and good luck with all your endeavors. KB aka telekenfun

 

yes the front end is a battle, but it's getting easier with each step. just as i thought. my headlight stands were way out of wack. lets try this again.

this is much better, but the hood fits horribly at the nose, i have another hood, so i threw that on there. the nose fits much better but it's really tight fitting around the cowl. i'm going to take it back off , recheck for level and then shim and adjust everything. i laid out some tape showing the grille treatment i have planned. there's a photo on riksters site with a 5 window with a narrowed stock grille. i love that look, and it's unique. i also started modding the headlight buckets, the left is lowered, the right is stock. im lowereing them about an inch and moving them towards the hoodsides about 1/2 inch.


my trim strip is crooked, and i need to do some work on the radiator tabs and upper grille, but man, i'm getting closer.

 

Man that's looking great! You have inspired me to drag some of the rusty 36 junk I have into the shop this winter and start picking at it

 

Great work as always Nate! They must have sold a bunch of 36 fords in the north west. I never find any parts here in Texas.


Ted

 

get on it koolkemp!! so, rust repair and fitting stock panels ****s. i ended up going back to the shop, inspired by kenneth and kippers. they are kicking serious ****. my headlight buckets were bashed in, so i thought i'd take a crack at what i think ford should have done in 36' anyways....i started by making a 3d pattern on the bucket and marking a cut line. then i cut an oversize piece of 19g and made a break in it. then i shrank the edges and worked the shrink on a forming head, by hammer and dolly until the piece matched the 3d pattern. then i trimmed and filed both the bucket and patch and tacked it in. now i have the same fender reveal on my headlight...i desperately need a tipping wheel.

 

Can the fender/grille ***embly rotate forward where they bolt to the cowl? that might tip the grille forward too, you might have to leave one of the fender brace bolts out to get it to pivot forward if that makes sense?

jsut thought about it, its bolted to the running boards, it probably wont go forward, maybe you straitened out our front panels too much!

thats the fun with early fords, but when the time was spent on fitting it shows!

JEFF

 

this is my trick when the gaps are too tight in a spot.

 

Nice light treatment!!

 

***us, i matched the flange edge to the grille and the inner grille. i think theres a slight twist in the grille itself. in any case i think i need to re-level the whole frame and secure it down better. i've been all over it working ,and have not re-checked. i think i'm getting the hang of this 36 stuff though!

 

Thanks for all the effort posting here, i live the headlight treatment, have thread through your thread today, wow, glad you kept going! I have a 39 std ute that I'm yet too tackle body work on, it has no floors or rocker's thanks for all the pics on the ***embly of your's. Have sub'd

Cheers

Glenn

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