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Opening a Billetproof can of worms...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by KIRK!, Mar 9, 2004.

  1. KIRK!
    Joined: Feb 20, 2002
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    KIRK!
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    Well it's that time again already. Time to start the phone calls, running around, designing, mailing, crying and everything else that is the hell of getting ready for Billetproof, CA.

    What can of worms you ask? Well I want people's input about the show. What should be changed, what should be added and what's just fine as it is. Keep in mind that "it's too big" is not valid input without a logical and realistic resolution. I still say there is nothing that says 700 great cars can't be in the same place and still have a great time.

    The biggest NEW thing so far for 2004 will be requiring a photo with entry forms. The lame cars have been a VERY small percentage of the total but I'd like to be able to weed out more or all of them before they show up on the doorstep whining about how far they drove.

    Can you smell it? It's open.

    Thanks in advance for your help and support.
     
  2. Photo`s with registraition??? sounds complicated???I say just put on a car show there will be critics so what!!! I would like to see some kind of cool off activity it was hot as you get the picture last year.I myself dug the army jeeps and that kid has a nice 31 wide bed should be ready this yr and his Dad has a sweet 34 roadster the total ratio of inapropriate cars to great cars speeks for its self out of 700 cars come on??? I would also like to see some more artist vendors too!!! I love that stuff
     
  3. hotrodladycrusr
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    I think sending in a photo with entry is a good idea. I have to send in photos of my artwork with my applications to "jury" for shows that I want to do. Weeds out the unacceptable very easily, plus it gives you some good photos to use in your publicity.
     
  4. Roothawg
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    [ QUOTE ]
    I think sending in a photo with entry is a good idea. I have to send in photos of my artwork with my applications to "jury" for shows that I want to do.

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    please explain further...........
     
  5. hemi
    Joined: Jul 11, 2001
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    Whatever happens, keep the model car contest. That was one of the best ones I have been to in a while. It really brought out a great bunch of people...
     
  6. hotrodladycrusr
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    [ QUOTE ]
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    I think sending in a photo with entry is a good idea. I have to send in photos of my artwork with my applications to "jury" for shows that I want to do.

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    please explain further...........

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    I hand paint on ladies clothing and sell at art shows on the weekends I'm not at a car show. I have to send in the application for the show way in advance, including photos of my work so they (the promotors) can determine whether my work is good enough for their show. This is a very common practice in the art show world. Good quality photos, showing your "stuff" in the best possible "light" can make or break whether you get into an AWESOME show or not.

    A show might have 500 spaces and 5,000 artist that want to get in. [​IMG] They have to choose who gets in some way.
     
  7. DrJ
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    So does a person actually have to show up with the same car they send the picture in of, and get the acceptance and entry for?
    You better specify that or people will send in a pic of a car they think is "right" and try to drive in in a different car, and then bitch about how far they drove, yadda yadda.... [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  8. tragic59
    Joined: Sep 16, 2002
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    How about a "spectator" entrance that's closer to the "spectator" parking... It was hot last year, as has already been pointed out, and I had to walk half way around the perimeter of the fair grounds to even get through the gate...
     
  9. I loved the 'live customising' competition. Every time my friend & I walked past, we checked it out to see how far the guys had got. Who needs Monster Garage's 5 days!!

    The whole feel of the show, was in my humble opinion, just right, I really enjoyed seeing people actually wandering round checking out cars etc, made a change from all the other (sit in the lawnchair) shows I had been to in 2003 (apart from Paso!) I have only lived here in CA for 15 months, but BILLETPROOF was on the calender almost from the day I arrived, and will stay that way for a long time to come.


    The music was a nice little distraction as well, how about a varied line up?

    The Choptops? or Hopped Up!! would be cool.

    Just my $0.02 worth.

    But whatever you do...I'll be there!!

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Can we do an online registration, and send a pic as an attachment that way? Also I'm torn between taking my 59 (yet again...) or bringing the beater 55 Chevy truck that I plan to throw together...

    Travis
     
  11. yorgatron
    Joined: Jan 25, 2002
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    you've seen my car,now you wanna picture? i declare myself exempt.besides,i don't have a camera and i'm too dumb to operate the scanner/email bullshit. here's a suggestion,H.A.M.B. only parking section.see you there-george
     
  12. chip
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
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    just put gary minor at the front gate, he said he would do it, you won't have half the cars you did last year, but what will be inside will be pretty cool ones, but then again, i think you would have a lot of pissed off people!...whatever happens, we will be there, do we have to send a pic if you already know the car??? just kidding, i think i have one........chip
     
  13. Skate Fink
    Joined: Jul 31, 2001
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    ScaryLarry is using a two parking area idea for his show. The "traditional vehicles" will be in the preferred area and the "marginal" ones parked elsewhere. Late models and Street Rods will be turned away and if they don't like it, Oh Well!..........
     
  14. burndup
    Joined: Mar 11, 2002
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    from Norco, CA

    DUDE!

    Don't be chicken, its you're show, do what the hell you want. Hell, make it GAYPRIDEPROOF '04 if you want... might lose some attendance tho. Do your thing as you see fit, its a freakin car show, not religeon.
     
  15. KIRK!
    Joined: Feb 20, 2002
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    Billetproof will be Billetproof. There won't be any major changes. The formula is pretty solid. I just want the show to stay current and offer something new for people who go.
     
  16. FoMoCo_MoFo
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
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    Kirk, how about FREE BEER? j/k

    I went last year and the only other year I went was `99 (due to work) and I thought that it had stayed true to form, but got alot better due to the larger venue and the major increase in number of cars. I do think online registation would make things easier on some.

    ok if no free beer, how about Laidies free at the gate and $10 for guys?

     

  17. Last year kicked butt.

    Maybe have a special section for the cars that aren't "billetproof" type cars... "just go down there and turn left at the gate..."

    Park them behind a wall or something?

    Anyway, it's not like the show was crawling with them... so because the percentages are so low... I say screw it... keep the show "as is".

    The ONLY thing I didn't care for was the group of guys that turned that car into a hot tub... that was stupid. Maybe if you're going to have a customizing competition... have the contestants submit their plans to you first... so you don't end up with a totally useless car.

    Also, maybe have a "Motor Meltdown" competition... as a HAMB fundraiser maybe? I think I may try to have another Saturday night party... maybe do it then?

    I know we talked about this last year... but at the time I was ass deep in work and didn't have the time.

    Anyway, keep up the good work!

    Sam.
     
  18. KIRK!
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    [ QUOTE ]

    Also, maybe have a "Motor Meltdown" competition... as a HAMB fundraiser maybe? I think I may try to have another Saturday night party... maybe do it then?

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I still think that would be KILLER. I'd love to see it during the day at the show. Great attraction and it would raise money.

    The offer still stands to clubs out there who want to earn money for their kitty or for a charity to get a FREE booth. The rule is that you cannot sell anything and must have an activity. It can be like a carnival booth or wheel changing competition where the customer pays a fee to try to be the days fastest. The winner of the day gets half the dough or a cool prize. Something like that. The booth idea would have to be approved in advance. It just gives people more to see and do while earning clubs some dough for a club project or something.
     
  19. SAM...

    Make sure you blow up a Ford this time!!! [​IMG]

    Travis
     
  20. mikes51
    Joined: Oct 4, 2001
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    [ QUOTE ]
    here's a suggestion,H.A.M.B. only parking section.see you there-george

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    I'll agree to that idea also. Some of the parking area for
    previous winners had extra space, could be a nice H.A.M.B. area.
     
  21. Take the friggin heat down a coupla notches.....I'm a pussy when it comes to hot weather.
    The show has all ways been awesome, in all it's varous versions.
    Just keep up the great work.
     
  22. six5monster
    Joined: Jun 4, 2003
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    Billetproof and Bonneville. I am starting to stress a little bit as my car is apart and My two favorite events aren't that far away.
    [​IMG]
     
  23. KIRK!
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    Å H.A.M.B area would be great. It might be a HUGE area. I guess we could just put up a sign and make it first come first served.
     
  24. Flynn's_57
    Joined: May 10, 2002
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    from Nor*Cal

    Hmmmm...
    I really do like the "HAMB parking" idea-
    I say someone should DONATE HAMB stickers for the occasion-
    You know, stickers you ONLY get if you're a HAMBer and were at Billetproof 04

    I would like to see more bikes this year too...?
    But maybe that's just me-
    (I was thinking maybe the cut-off year could be DIFFERENT for bikes to get more in?)
    [​IMG]
     
  25. KIRK!
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    A HAMB / Billetproof sticker would be cool. Billetproof could even cover the cost. It needs to be OK'd with Ryan and designed. If someone gets serious about this project I'll get specs for it.
     
  26. ESnacky6
    Joined: Aug 28, 2002
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    My ideas...

    -a car parts swap meet area...

    -NO gay billet wheels etc. on cars PERIOD...
    (stay true to the name..!!)

    -Online reg. would be awesome...easier..??

    -Giant tents for the cars to park under in the field area
    would be neat...shade was KEY last year...too damn hot..!!

    I'm sure I'll think of something else...

    Later, Snacks...


     
  27. KIRK!
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    We had online reg last year and it was a huge success. It will happen again this year. I'll definitely look into the tent idea. We talked a little about it last year but never got around to checking into it. The swap area is something I really want to do but I don't know where to do it. The whole grounds will be packed as will the spectator parking. Suggestions?
     
  28. ESnacky6
    Joined: Aug 28, 2002
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    wasn't there the covered areas to the left of the car
    'building' area..?? behind a short chain link fence..??
    kind of like at Turlock..??

    or maybe the area to the left of where the bands played..?
    that seemed like a cool little area that could be
    designated for just swapping... couple of rows..?

    I honestly don't remember the layout of the fairgrounds that well...
    I was drinking a little bit last year... Hahahaha..!!!


     
  29. KIRK!
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    Yeah, that far back area would be cool if we can get it. It's covered and cool.
     
  30. cleatus
    Joined: Mar 1, 2002
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    from Sacramento

    The only negative about last year was sweating like pigs!

    Definitely something to add shade to the big field area would be a good move - I really felt sorry for the poor bastards stuck out there.

    How about a spot somewhere with those mist sprayers for when you reach critical meltdown?

    Too wus for Billetproof? How about PBR misters?
     

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