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  1. TooMany2count
    Joined: Jan 6, 2003
    Posts: 1,373

    TooMany2count
    Member
    from Cahokia,IL

    HELL I will never eat there again after reading this & how they ****ed him over for protecting himself...
    **** PIZZA HUT ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

    WEAPONS OF CHOICE Pizza man saved by gun, but fired for packin' heat Prosecutors call it 'clear case of self-defense,' yet national chain prohibits carrying firearms

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38726

    Posted: June 1, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern

    © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

    A pizza deliveryman won't face charges for fatally shooting a would-be robber several times when he was approached in a high-crime area, but his employer, Pizza Hut, has fired him for violating a company policy against carrying firearms.

    Ronald B. Honeycutt, 38, who has a permit to carry a concealed weapon, says he's been delivering pizzas for 20 years and has always packed heat on the job.

    According to a report in the Indianapolis Star, prosecutors announced Friday the Carmel, Ind., man will not face criminal charges.

    "It's a clear case of self-defense," Deputy Prosecutor Barb Crawford said. "He did what the law allows him to do to protect himself."

    Jerome Brown-Dancler approached Honeycutt at around 11 p.m. on May 17 just after he had made a pizza delivery in Indianapolis. According to the report, Brown-Dancler pointed a 9 mm handgun at the Pizza Hut employee as he was entering his van.

    Brown-Dancler's gun carried a loaded 14-round clip but had no bullet in the chamber, Crawford told the Star. When confronted, Honeycutt pulled his own 9 mm from the back of his pants and fired until it was empty. He says he fired 15 times in about eight seconds. An autopsy revealed Brown-Dancler was hit at least 10 times.

    According to the report, Honeycutt insists Brown-Dancler didn't fall until after the last shot was fired.

    "The guy kept standing. He knew he was injured when he fell," Honeycutt told the paper. "His concern was he made an error, and the only thing he could say when I was grabbing his gun off the ground was, 'I just wanted pizza.'"

    After the encounter, Honeycutt took Brown-Dancler's gun, fearing it might be stolen if it was left with the body. He got in his van, drove to the Pizza Hut restaurant where he worked and told his manager to call police, Crawford said.

    "This was late at night. This was a high-crime area," Crawford is quoted as saying. "He left because he wasn't sure whether or not Brown-Dancler had any friends with him. As it turns out, he did indeed have friends with him. They left when they heard shots fired."

    Honeycutt says he plans to find another job delivering pizzas.

    "Other criminals better think twice, because I'm going back out there," he said, "and I know I'm not alone in the way I think about this."

    Some Pizza Hut customers have complained to the company after it fired Honeycutt.

    "I hope those of you in the media will realize the incredible unfairness of a huge company telling its employees – in essence – they must agree to die for the company rather than use legal reasonable means to defend themselves," Rick Whitham, an Indianapolis attorney, told WND. He says he saw Pizza Hut's action as "clear discrimination against those who choose to lawfully exercise a legal, heavily regulated right."

    Whitham wrote to the company: "I don't spend my money with businesses that openly discriminate against people such as myself who understand that the police have no affirmative duty to protect any particular citizen and that no company is worth dying for – particularly yours."


     
  2. IronCrossCartel
    Joined: May 11, 2004
    Posts: 108

    IronCrossCartel
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    yeah i say **** pizza hut. i never did like there pizza anyways [​IMG]
     
  3. oldchevyseller
    Joined: May 30, 2004
    Posts: 1,851

    oldchevyseller
    Member
    from mankato mn

    yeah since minnesota got its carry law so many places have no guns on premises signs
    carquest put up one i used to shoot with the guy that owns it ,i said well i carry and i aint gonna leave it in the car when i shop so it has changed my shopping ,plus he should of had a 45 they will put a guy down
    using 1 round,they guys in iraq are complaining about useing the baretta it dont killem with empting the mag
     
  4. G V Gordon
    Joined: Oct 29, 2002
    Posts: 5,724

    G V Gordon
    Member
    from Enid OK

    When you point a gun at someone, you have just said, "You or Me"? Given a choice it is gonna be You.
     
  5. VonDad
    Joined: Apr 17, 2001
    Posts: 228

    VonDad
    Member

    Missouri finally got off their ***es and got the CCW law p***ed here. I trained paid my money qualified and was issued permit #7 here in our county.

    I carry all of the time now. I always have a pistol on me unless I am in church. And the thing about it is that Concealed means Concealed. Nobody knows I got it.

    The first thing about this story is that the fellow had a gun pointed at him. The BG's story about "I only wanted pizza" is ********. Point a gun at somebody carrying and you gonna get shot. The end.

    You can carry in me and Fraz's store all you want, but when you pull it unasked, and point it at me or anybody else in the store, you are going to hear a very loud noise followed with much pain. That is all.

    Pizza Hut's stance on this is so lame. I go to their store in the area and carry my pistol in just because they tell me I can't. FKem. My son in law does as well. We like Meat Lovers hand tossed, what can I say...

    But hey... Concealed means concealed.

    So off the soapbox and back to cars. Found one fulla bullet holes one time. 50 Plymouth rusted into the ground. Many many holes. Shame...

    Later guys
    Bill
    VonDad
     
  6. Agrv8r
    Joined: May 14, 2004
    Posts: 79

    Agrv8r
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    being this happened in my neck of the woods and that I carry, I'm glad it went down the way it did. I will shed no tear for a thug who robs some guy just trying to do his job.
    I can understand Pizza Hut's stance but don't agree with it.
    If I recall, the guy got several job offers after the event and was cleared of any possible charges.
     
  7. Hey All,

    Stories like this just freaks me out. I dont know whats worse, the fact that you have to carry a gun to work, the fact that the employer actualy makes a rule for carying firearms to work (becuase the issue obviously came up often enough) or the fact that you can deliver a piza and have someone pull a pistol on you.

    I know im from Australia where this **** isnt an issue, but doesnt the whole gun mentality wierd anyone else out?

    Danny
     
  8. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
    Posts: 13,509

    Unkl Ian

    What kind of car was he driving ? [​IMG]
     
  9. Was the get-away car a hot rod? Kustom?

    No?...........then this is probably more appropriate for a GUN FORUM!
     
  10. haring
    Joined: Aug 20, 2001
    Posts: 2,335

    haring
    Member

    When does Tech Week start again?
     
  11. Muttley
    Joined: Nov 30, 2003
    Posts: 18,501

    Muttley
    Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    Was the get-away car a hot rod? Kustom?

    No?...........then this is probably more appropriate for a GUN FORUM!



    [/ QUOTE ]

    [ QUOTE ]
    When does tech week start again?

    [/ QUOTE ]

    If every single post was about cars this would be a really boring place, lighten up a little. There arent to many things I like more then hearing about some ***hole getting gunned down. [​IMG] The next jack*** might think twice next time he decides to rob a hard working guy just doing his job.

     
  12. k9racer
    Joined: Jan 20, 2003
    Posts: 3,091

    k9racer
    Member

    As that Gutair player from Mich by the name of Ted said. Never leave the house with out a well folded hanky,clean underwear,a sharp pocket knife and a well oiled fire arm. If I am dressed I am packing. Thank You.
     
  13. Radman
    Joined: May 22, 2004
    Posts: 176

    Radman
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  14. Hot Rod To Hell
    Joined: Aug 19, 2003
    Posts: 3,036

    Hot Rod To Hell
    Member
    from Flint MI

    [ QUOTE ]
    Was the get-away car a hot rod? Kustom?

    No?...........then this is probably more appropriate for a GUN FORUM!

    [/ QUOTE ]

    OK, maybe they don't have crime in Australia, but there's a helluva lot here.

    So maybe the Pizza Hut thing isn't relevant, but it COULD have been somebody getting carjacked for their Hot Rod. Would it be an acceptable subject then?

    Being that until a few years ago Flint was the murder capital of the USA, I like guns, and you can bet that I'll be carrying one damn near every time you see me. Like they asked me in my CCW cl***:

    Would you rather be carried by six or judged by twelve???

    If it comes down to shoot or be shot, I'll be the one pulling the trigger.
     
  15. burndup
    Joined: Mar 11, 2002
    Posts: 1,938

    burndup
    Member
    from Norco, CA

    No human or creature is gonna take my life without somesort of a fight...

    Glad to hear the dude smoked that piece of ****, AND the justice system saw it for what it really was, thats the part that amazes the **** out of me!
     

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