Not to stoke the fire or anything, but the NSRA is a business. It's intent is to make money, and it does a good job of it. It keeps hundreds of companies and thousands of individuals off of the welfare roles every month. Sometimes there are regrettable/bad situations, but to blame the actions of a few ****s on the NSRA is not cool. Now the NSRA may not be everybodies cup of tea, but it is not EVIl. As far as the p***es go I personally have seen people walk out p***es that had already been used to give to other people to avoid paying; that is stealing no matter how you look at it. They have cracked down hard on the p***ing of p***es, but they could have listened to the situation and not jumped on your friends dad the way they did. On a lighter note the show was good, the weather ws great,but the swap meet was a little high price wise. Later Shane T
Was it a grey primered 33 sedan with darker primer scallops?? Fenderless?? If so that is my Friends dad's car. It was built in the late eighties...
They kicked me out for having one wheel in my wagon I was pulling through the swap meet with a for sale sign on it. Some woman setting in a chair with a pile of **** for sale asked me if I had a swap space and how much I would charge to carry he **** around. She probly was pissed because know one was buying here beanie babies and rusted ****. I would imagine she told someone and then the hunt was on. One of the lovely ladies in a golf cart explained to me that there were no wagons allowed in the show area and if I wanted to advertise my wheel for sale I would need to but a swap meet space. I guess a for sale sign in your car or selling wheels in front of your car is o.k. I also saw people pulling wagons with kids in them. I guess you can't win at a event driven by greed. I did make through most of the show and it wasn't that great.
Yeah! I have a picture or two..... which I can't get to until tonight... Tell your friend's dad we all got a big chuckle out of that.
Since I head to shows in my own car by myself and Roadster usually has his own car by himself, we normally end up with a couple of extra ****ons that are not being used by US so I don't feel guilty giving one of my ****ons to a friend to use. This weekend I registered my Dad and his new '48 but he had problems on the way to Kzoo. He never used his credientals all weekend so I gave his ****ons to friends. Most of the RRT guys this weekend were solo in their cars so there were lots of extra ****ons around. No one is "cheating" the NSRA. You get two ****ons, who do they care who you give the extra ****on your not using to?? I've given them to waitstaff at resturants and counter clerks at gas stations in Kzoo in the past. What I don't do is I don't hand them thru the fence, even though it would be easier. I drive out to the parking lot in Big Olds and pick up said friend and drive them in. P***ing them thru the fences LOOKS like your trying to cheat even if it's a legimate p*** that no one is using. I'm not sticking up for the rent a cop, I'm sure he's just reacting to what the NSRA officals told him to watch out for. I'm sure it won't be long before the NSRA adopt the same system as the GG whereas your ticket has the different days of the show listed and that days portion is ripped off at the gate when you walk in....never to be used by anyone else again. Till then I'll continue to give my extra p***es to friends.
After the last fiasco I swore I'd never go again, but it looks like KoppkK is coming to town all the way from England and I was gonna give it one more try in Tampa, but now in good conscience I don't think I can. The Lakeland concours is the same weekend and it's free. I don't want to give the NSRA one dime of my money.
As far as re-using p***es.......if they are really concerned about the "sharing" issue, why don't they just use a punch card ticket instead of the ****ons? That's what I got when I put my car in the swap area. On the checkbook rodders topic. I just heard a great story about a certain big time builder (not Boyd) who was at a show with a client and the car they had built for him. As the car was parked at the show, they could'nt figure out why the car would'nt hold a charge. The client knew very little about his car but he and the builder were looking this thing up and down trying to figure out the problem. Just then a kid comes over to look at the car unaware of the problem. He looks under the hood and says " this thing doesn't have an alternator belt" and walks away. The builder and owner looked around obviously embarr***ed hoping nobody heard.
These problems are just sign of the times, all the major organizations are toooo big and driven only by dollars. For what it is worth, I can guarantee all of you the orig NSRA was not started to be anything like it has become. I was there at the start NSRA #102.
Well ive kinda ignored this whole post but? And I agree with hotrodladycruzr . How to avoid the whole h***le? Just pay at the gate and walk in. I dont want to be a **** about this but the badges should have been exchanged out in the lot far far away from the gate or a ride in as she suggested. Im sure if you guys got enuff money for gas to get to kzoo you could have payed for your 1 day in. Maybe this was a good lesson learned on how to do the badge swap But who knows. Also it says on the fence somewhere no alchol Good thing I cant read and guess what ? I broke the law too. As far as the guys that got the big h***le that shouldnt have happened but im sure everyone will be smarter next year. I hope nsra doesnt go to the gg type stuff but they have to protect thier interest to. It cost money for the grounds and security and stuff and hey its a great show for us all to get together. Calm down cause nuttins gonna be alright anyway .(quote from my dad) Im still a little pissed cause I tripped over an old fender when some wierdo that was all pierced and **** walked buy me and scared the **** outta me And I cut my little pinky Dave please no hate mail..................
[ Im still a little pissed cause I tripped over an old fender when some wierdo that was all pierced and **** walked buy me and scared the **** outta me And I cut my little pinky Dave please no hate mail..................[/QUOTE] ROTFLMAO and your sister ain't your mother
In my instance my dad took me on a two week trip from Columbia Mo. to Tulsa to the Nostalgia Drags, then to Oklahoma City for the Street Rod Nationals the next week. My old man was a vendor and got two p***es and a vehicle p***(non pre 1948) like a 1951 Henry-J and then registered his 1936 dodge truck in the show with two p***es. The problem came on the last day when we checked out of the motel with said Henry-J on trailer( with ****** ripped out by yours truly at the age of 14) and they would not let us in the back gate with the truck and we could not go in the front gate with a car on the trailer!! We had a booth( witch he paid big bucks for) and said booth was full of his **** that we could not get in the gate to load up and go home. The rent a cop would not let us in period , not even as a walk in with our four p***es between the two of us. He was told if he did not leave he would be arrested, his two vehicles would be towed and who knows what of me. He was a member for support since the NSRA began(member#486) and paid his entry fee to every event since Peoria in 1970 and I have every dash plaque, ****on, and what is left of the tee shirts. Most of those years he didn't even go to the event I might add. I do know a few guys who build a mean ride for the events like my friend "Tom Perrish" and drive them but most of the rides in the " best of show" catagory are TRAILER QUEENS (like CODDINGTON, PETE and JAKE,ECT..)and COME IN THE BACK GATE ON A TRAILER (JUST LIKE WE TRIED TO DO THAT DAY). So the NSRA can KISS my big fat hairy--------- MY dad turned me on to the HAMB and was most proud of being a member because it was him,me,my son, and all of us who build what we drive and drive what we build and are proud to do it and help someone else do the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was reading that post all serious like, and then got to the part I quoted above... and damn near spit Mt Dew all over the screen!
I really didnt see you but too bad we didnt meet. Nothing scares me ,**** if it did id go back to bed and hide every morning. Dave
Funny how the bigger virtually any organization gets,the more it becomes about the money and the less it's about the people it was supposed to be for in the first place. NSRA, school boards, unions, our government.. you could branch wildly off topic here, so let's not, just something to bear in mind when you join a club or start one.
I posted an NSRA rant approximately 2 weeks before Kazoo and a fellow hamber thought I was out of line, obviously I am not quoting directly. Why did the Goodguys come into existance? OUT OF THE SHORT COMINGS OF THE NSRA !!!! The NSRA has made millions over the years, this will come to an end some day. Just look at "Street Scene", this magazine hasn't changed in years as each issue looks almost the same...
Years ago, many years ago, I was turned away from an NSRA event because my 49 Plymouth was not a hot rod by their description, too new. Meanwhile a line of plastic bodied T-bucket roadsters with late model sbc engines etc. rolls in and welcome. I've never set foot in an NSRA event since, and never will. I built hot rods before most of those ****ers were out of diapers. My car was a hotrod before all it took to have a hotrod was a credit card. I will not have anything to do with them or their sorry "club".
Your 54 and you think you built cars before most of the guys in NSRA were out of diapers!! Your still a kid, you were just starting to drive when NSRA was formed. Also you grew up in the muscle car era, not the hot rod and custom era! Sounds to be that you're just sore (temper tantrum) because they wouldn't bend the rules which you should've known before you got there.
Ditto. Come on guys, people go to what they enjoy. You can find something wrong with almost any organized event with more than a 100 people showing up.
Hmm. Every organization has rules-your car was too new a body style. That's their rule. You can take your '80 Chevy and enter it in the Antique Automobile Club of America's shows because it's over 25 years old,but not if it's rodded. That's their rule. Can't enter your cat in a dog show. So I agree with phat rat here.
Nail + Head = Bingo! NSRA is not for everyone. Neither is Goodguys... or any other club or event. I stick up for them from time to time because I enjoy their shows, but truth be told, I'm more of a Goodguys fan simply because the later cutoff date allows for more variety and I enjoy their love affair with g***ers (at least at Indy it seems that way). I go to the shows that make me grin and I don't care who hosts them. If rat rods and hot rods stopped showing up to NSRA shows, I'd probably lose interest in those and start going to the NHRA Hot Rod Reunion or wherever I think I'd have the most fun and get the best ideas. Hell, I bet there was even a communist or two that *****ed about the Road Rocket Rumble (maybe they *****ed quietly to themselves LOL) If it ain't fun, don't do it.
For the record, and because I have to write up the PPG pick articles, they look at the paint...they don't care who or how it was built, and many of them run pretty good. For example: In Columbus, they selected a homebuilt 71 Chevelle, and a low buck '32 Ford pickup with 15" Cragar mags, both non-trailer queens, in Des Moines they selected a '34 Chevy Sedan with a blown 350 that runs pretty good, Kansas City another '34 Outlaw bodied '34 Chevy that was far from pro built and heavily driven. In Nashville, they selected Raymond May's swoopy doopy Coast to Coast '39 that was flamed real-fire style by a chick...it was built by Raymond in his garage in NC....some homebuilders and small shop owners can actually, despite public misconception, turn out some quality work. You'd be surprised at the overall homebuilt quality level, not all of them park in the Homebuilt Heaven areas... Not that this helps the thread, but that's how it really is.....
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