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History ot reproduction of fokker tri-plane engine

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by junior 1957, Aug 29, 2008.

  1. junior 1957
    Joined: Dec 10, 2006
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  2. Big T
    Joined: Aug 29, 2006
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    Big T
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    from Florida

    The film of the rotary engine turning is awesome. What a cool website. Thanks for posting.
     
  3. G V Gordon
    Joined: Oct 29, 2002
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    G V Gordon
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    from Enid OK

    It's amazing what passion mixed with talent can accomplish.

    Great read.
     
  4. Roothawg
    Joined: Mar 14, 2001
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    Wow, great website.
     
  5. Road Runner
    Joined: Feb 7, 2007
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    Wow !
    Talking about moving parts...

    Wonderful engineering. Beautiful site.

    Thanks for posting.
     
  6. belair
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    Very impressive.
     
  7. gahi
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    from Moab, UT

    That thing is amazing, I'd like to see how the cam works. One push/pull rod per cyl?
     
  8. Bruce Lancaster
    Joined: Oct 9, 2001
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    I am amazed at absolutely everything on that site.
    It strikes me suddenly that human beings will only go to that much trouble...
    For a hobby...
    And for a war!
    Is our gearhead hobby just nature's way of using all our genetic tendencies toward extremely elaborate ways of killing one another when we don't have a war handy?? Or is war complicated by our genetic tendency to make elaborate devices instead of just bashing one another with rocks??
    Anyway, there is some kind of intricate relationship there. There's no such thing as a rodder who isn't fascinated by combat aviation stuff.
     
  9. Not only is that thing amazing but my mind is spinning trying to figure out the fuel distribution!
    I love the picture of it mounted to the back of the old truck!
     
  10. Thanks for the link. I think if i were a more "affluent" individual i would be the owner/pilot of a WWI or WW2 fighter. While intoxicating that is truly a rich mans sport.
     
  11. Ramblur
    Joined: Jun 15, 2005
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    While I agree with the post above,it could be that the intoxication comes
    from the castor oil used for lubrication. My neighbor has and flies these
    rotaries and it seems I recall him telling how the castor oil fumes and leaks
    tend to clean a pilots intestines out pretty well.:eek:
    Below are some links were he describes the fuel,valve, and ignition operation
    of these early engines.I know they're loud and really rough sounding when he
    flies them.

    http://www.fantasyofflight.com/aircraftpages/scout.htm

    http://www.fantasyofflight.com/aircraftpages/standarde1.htm

    http://www.fantasyofflight.com/aircraftpages/monoplane.htm

    http://www.fantasyofflight.com/aircraftpages/morane.htm

    http://www.fantasyofflight.com/aircraftpages/fokkerdviii.htm


    Big show here in Nov. Vintage Land , Sea , and air machines. I'd
    love to see some Hot Rods enter and show up the old Jags on the
    parking lot autocross. Info below:
    http://www.roar-n-soar.com/

    http://www.fantasyofflight.com/index.htm
     
  12. GeeRam
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    Wow.......:eek: how cool to have Kermit as your neighbour....:cool::cool:

    Rotaries are amazing devices.....:D
     
  13. What a truly amazing website. Excellent info and wow what an endeavor.

    Thanks for posting the link.
     
  14. Salty
    Joined: Jul 24, 2006
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    from Florida

    Holy crap that site is awesome, I'm gonna have to waste a few hours there...
     
  15. RichFox
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    I believe the old Gnome-LeRone roterys were two stroke motors. In the old movies you here the engine rev up then get quiet then rev again. That's because they had no throttle. Always ran wide open. Speed controll was sutting off the ignition when you got going to fast, turning it back on when you got going to slow. Be a cool way to drive to work.
     
  16. RichFox
    Joined: Dec 3, 2006
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    It's been a really long time since I worked on big round blown hemi engines so maybe somebody will jump in here and make corrections. All of the engines I worked on were two rows of 9 cylinders. Four stroke, radial, not rotery. So nine cylinders all on the same crank throw with one cam to work all the intakes and one for the exhaust. The firing order would be 1-3-5-7-9-2-4-6-8. So a lobe has to open #1 intake valve, next in line is #3 and so on. Since the lobe that just opened #1 is heading for #2 next but #2 won't fire until next revolution the cam has to have 5 lobes and turn at 1/9th of crank speed. At least that's how i see it.
     
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