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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by daves30, Dec 5, 2008.

  1. daves30
    Joined: Mar 7, 2007
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    I need to make a paint booth in my 2 car attached garage so the paint doesnt come in the house. What is the best way to do this? I was thinking of using thick clear plastic and attaching it to the ceiling and put a fan in the door, but is this the best way? Any advice would help.
    Thanks Dave
     
  2. ridin dirty
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    Dave Do you have a window in your garage ? Well this is what I did . I built a bay out of 2x4s ,split garage in half . stapled heavy duty plastic and duct tape . boxed a fresh air inlet with a hot air furnance filter and held that in with sheetrock screw and cedar shingles . The shingles flex to hold filter to box one screw per shingle . In the window a house fan with another furnace filter duct tape to the fan to filter/paint dust and some badness . I also put a crap door in it so I can get in and out just slice the plastic at the door . Jerry Rigg but it works pretty good just dont spray more than what the fan can suck out . you'll like it
     
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  3. Rusty Kustoms
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    for the safety of you and your family please do not spray in an attached garage
     
  4. socalmerc
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    heres mine, but my shop it detached. i used that thin plastic and made a box out of pvc pipe. then i filtered one end with heater filters and put a booth fan on the other side with filters in front of it
     

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  5. HemiRambler
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    Use your head and safety won't be an issue. Are there any furnace ducts in your garage?? - I think you'd want to block those off. Keeping a path of fresh air IN and filtered air pumped OUT will be key in keeping things - hunky dory. imho

    I did a similar thing in a detached garage - using the furnace filter thing. Hose the floor down real good before you set it up - keeping the dirt to a minimum can't hurt. The furnace filtered inlet air is a good thing - as well as filtering the exit air to keep your neighbors happy. Keep in mind that you WILL plug the exit filters REAL fast when painting a car - you may want to make the setup so it's easy to swap that filter out - keeping an eye on it as you're painting. The first time I did this I didn't bother with the filter and blew the exit air out the back - it was amazing how much paint got stuck to the fans.
     
  6. bigolds
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    Trust me when I tell you that no mater the amount of precautionary measures you take to abate the fumes....I promise you the odor and some fumes will migrate into the house!!!

    I did parts of my Olds in the attached garage (small areas) with all the precautions....she still wasn't happy!!! Once I lost the mask and all, I walked into the house and the fumes were very evident. If ya got kids and you just have to do it there, send the wife and kids away for the day. Air the house out good before they get home!!!!

    Oh yeah, turn the furnace in the house off while you're doing this if the garage is heated or air conditioned. Don't try the filter thing on the vents.....fumes is fumes and a filter will not grab them!!!! It will get the particulate matter (some of it) but won't do dick for the vapors!!!!

    Good luck!!!
     
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  7. In Oklahoma usually the hotwater heater and/or furnace is accessed from the garage.
    Don't forget to turn them both off, including pilot light.
     
  8. daves30
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    I dont have the funace or water heater out there. No ducting either. Last time I painted with the door open and it wasn't real strong in the house, but could tell I had been painting so the wife was bitching.
    Thanks Dave
     
  9. onemintcaddy
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    Install a temporary car port out of plastic. No one said it had to be inside. I use to get everything ready the night before, Pull the car out to the center of the yard, Seal, Spray and mow. Dun.
     
  10. oneshotkustoms
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    heres how I did mine (not very cheap but it works ) I have a 3 1/2 car garage I built a wall with 14 lights built into the wall then we cut a 3 foot hole in the back and put in a FIRE SAFE fan with 3 speeds the wall we built has a 3ft wide door and to get clean air I cut a ton of holes in the door and stapled some fine screen to bolth sides now the air will really flow and get all the overspray out !!!!!!

    hope this helps now the best pic but it will work
     

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  11. 29nash
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    Nearly all of the how to has been covered.

    Big exhaust fan, high up, intake filters to stop dust, outgo filters to keep paint from going out and getting on the neighbor.

    Evaluate the neighborhood and paint when the busybodies are away.

    HVLP paint gun. Water on the floor when painting.

    Don't advertise. If anybody asks, answer is "who me? Shit I don't even know how to paint"
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  12. Keep in mind, an exhaust fan can only push out the amount of air it can draw in, or it will create a vacume. in other words, your intake has to be atleast as big as the outlet. Also remember what ever particulate matter makes it through the filter will end up on your nieghbor's car and house.

    Check into renting someone's booth for a day and save yourself the headache from D.E.P or OSHA.....if someone calls them, the fines are way more expensive than renting a booth. That is why it is manditory for a paintshop's booth to have an air make-up system to burn the fumes.
     
  13. HemiRambler
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    The "exit" filters are not for fumes - they are strictly for trying to minimize the blinking arrow pointing to your neighbors what you are doing. Sure they are gonna smell it, but by minimizing the "dust" they will have less to bitch about and if they are bitching hopefully it will delay them into realizing who's doing it until you're already done.
     
  14. 32v
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    a 10 x20 costco tent $229.00 works well it has 2 windows and zipper front door take it down when your finnished till next time.goes up in 2 hrs
     
  15. skypilot
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    Don&#8217;t paint in an attached garage it&#8217;s not worth the risk
     
  16. daves30
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    So for everyone who thinks I shouldn't paint in my garage I thought this was a group of people building the cars themselves not hiring people to to the job for them.:confused::confused:
     
  17. terd ferguson
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    I don't think they're saying don't paint in your garage so you can do it yourself. I think it's more for health/safety reasons. Some jobs have just gotta be farmed out. I pay a shop for tires to be put on. That doesn't mean I'm not building my car myself.
     
  18. Mr48chev
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    Nuff said. If fumes got in the house from a small project they would overrun it if you painted a whole car. If momma ain't happy, Nobody's happy.

    I'd pick up one of those Tent style carport thingies or the frame off one and use it as a spray booth away from the house. Cover the frame with heavy visqueen and it would have plenty of light for daytime painting. I'd still setup an air flow system with filters. Lay a sheet of plastic on the ground to keep from blowing up dust and you are in business.

    Take it from an old fart, your family's safety and well being is a lot more important than the convenience of being able to paint in the garage.

    Sometimes there are shops around that will rent out the paint booth by the hour or day. I'd think about checking into that.
     
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  19. I wonder what your insurance company would say if you had a fire and they could prove you were spraying in the garage. My guess is they would contest the claim.
    I know everyone hates the old guys putting a damper on things, but usually they have had bad experiences and are trying to prevent you from having the same.
     
  20. KJSR
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    Great idea!! I may have to try it.....
     
  21. I own a paint shop, we are certified by OSHA once a year. This includes the shop and employees, the fresh air system and respirators. We even have to take a breathing test, and trust me non of this is cheap! It's a dangerous game even with the government breathing down our necks!

    Do yourself and especially your family a favor, look for a booth to rent and buy a good respirator!
     
  22. Nobodys Hero
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    i sprayed my coupe right in my attached 2 car garage. I hung 3m plastic sheets like you said from the ceiling. I put a fan in both windows and the door, and sprayed away. Never had any problems with it going in the house. The only problem i had was the paint dust settling on the parts, therefore preventing the second, third coats from being that nice.

    I had to stop after each coat, let the parts fully dry, wipe them down and shoot the next coat. came out great though.
     
  23. 29nash
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    I see light! You are doing it yourself. In my opinion that's good. On the opposite side there are those that don't want you to do anything yourself, it's the nature of the beast. In between there are reasonable people with your well being in mind. Learn to appreciate advice. In the end you will make the decision no matter what the advice is.

    You can do it yourself in a half-assed way, or you can do it yourself in a safe way. Painting in your garage can be safe if you pay attention to the safety issues.

    OSHA protects employees of commercial painting businesses from asshole employers that would have them painting without any protection if they could get away with it. You are a private citizen, OSHA can't so, you are responsible to protect yourself and your family.

    Intake filter
    Ehaust fan and filter
    No ignition source in garage
    Isolate house/garage heat ducts
    Drop cloths to keep overspray off your other stuff in the garage
    Paint when the busybodys in the neighborhood are away or asleep
    Wet the floor to keep dust down
    Cover all exposed skin
    Wear breathing device that is labeled for the type of paint you use
    Dont advertise what you are doing in the privacy of your own home to the world
     
  24. Even if you rent a booth, you are still doing it yourself and the finished product will be better.
    All I am saying is that I have done what you are planning and I turned to renting a booth and the job turned out much better.
     
  25. daves30
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    I appriciate the advise, Im going to get a costco tent. That was a great idea.
    Thanks to everyone Dave
     
  26. hoarder1212
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    Before spending the 229.00 or whatever on a tent maybe you should check the price of renting a paint booth at a local body shop or tech school. could end up being cheaper and like someone else said a far better paint job.I have painted many at home and even with a nice home made booth you will always get some debris in the paint. A good down draft pro booth almost eliminates all of that. Good luck with it either way you go and have FUN!
     
  27. socalmerc
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    i agree try looking into renting a booth also. the guy i used to work for loved renting his booth out. just look for a small shop they usually are not painting every day in it so they like the fact of making money with it by doing nothing but unlocking the gates. try putting up a flyer at your local paint store, you might get a call back from some one wanting to rent.
     

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