Hey guys I bought a ‘49 Chevy cab over and had it sitting outside under a covered lean-to. After a cold spell, I noticed the paint on the roof flaking. So I moved it into my garage. But today I noticed the roof, cowl and lower cab corners flaking again. Now my garage isn’t heated yet, but I’ve had cars sit outside through winters and nothing happened to the paint. The spots where the paint is flaking off is pretty smooth, no real sand grooves. But if it’s factory paint, I wouldn’t think it would be grooved from sanding. The backs of the paint flakes are grey, leading me to believe it’s primer, since the paint of the cab is white. I’m thinking of feathering out the flaking areas and clearing it to keep it from continuing, not sure if it’ll help. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks
Get all of that random paint off and shoot it with epoxy. Anyway to tell what kind of paint it is? Kinda looks like latex. https://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/ This is good stuff, has UV additive if you don't top coat it in near future Plenty of other brands to choose from
Chevy didn't use gray primer....and their paint stuck pretty well. Although it would wear away over the decades, from sun etc.
Piss poor paint job. I would get out the paint stripper and, with a lot of work, would re-do it right. Covering a car with a tarp in a humid winter climate can cause this, too. A move from a dry climate to a humid one and a change in temperature variations can do funny things to mis-applied incorrect paint also.
Thanks guys. i don’t wanna strip the whole cab down, I bought it for that patina. Any other suggestions on that side? I didn’t cover it with a tarp, it was open air, I just used a tarp for the roof of my lean-to Truck came from Florida, but I got it there in the summer, so it should have adjusted. Thoughts are it was a full re-paint then? And just piss poor?
There is no other option except to strip it all off and repaint. There is no adhesion between the paint and the metal. Any paint that goes over it is going to come off in the same fashion. Strip it bare, remove all hints of rust, DA everything to 80 grit, and epoxy over that.
Clear doesn’t like bare metal. There are some adhesion promoters that claim to help. I like old rusty crap. But I think I’d DA and epoxy. A red oxide epoxy would probably look better if ya like an old look.
Damn it. Matching that patina is gonna be a pain! the doors and hood are fine, no flaking or issues with them, it’s so odd.
If you really want the patina look, buy 2 epoxy primers colors of the same brand and spray a coat of each, sand and scuff as much as you like- it's still protected. Or if you just want it to look really shitty, I mean, have a lot if patina, don't do anything.
There is original untouched patina - and then there is fabricated patina. 2 TOTALLY separate things. You can't fabricate or match or recreate original patina. It will be just that if you try - fake patina and it is not the same. Power wash it to blast off the heavy flake junk and just let it be, rust on..... But to each their own. Enjoy. Maybe my old Merc Coupe will be a little patina inspiration for you....
Ya only got one person to please. Fake patina or whatever you want to call it is is no different than shinny paint. Both are topcoats. In a couple years of wear and tear and sun it starts to turn to real patina anyway. I’ve got an upcoming bed to shoot on a truck and we’ll do our best to make it look as bad as the rest of the truck. Just returning it back to it’s pre accident condition.
Sooner or later it's all gonna flake and go away. To save what is bonded best to the original, I'd hit it with a pressure washer to blast away the loose stuff, then evaluate what's left. Good luck!
Chip off all the flaking paint. Then just spray the top with a spray can…if you can find a decent, not necessarily perfect match. Make sure to do a substandard/shitty spray job. You can try some of the “fake patina” tricks…IN MODERATION. Real patina is always random, so if the top ends up better than the rest of the car, that’s ok. If after 6 months if still doesn’t look good enough, try some new tricks…again IN MODERATION! Clear is for show cars!
Think your patina option went away with the sheets of paint falling off. As others have said, that remaining paint isn't any good. Unless you want it to rust away, your choices are limited. Do it the right way is my suggestion.
Thanks guys. I’m going to try and sand the edges and spray something to lock it in. If it gets time to finish the interior and the thing is still flaking, I’ll attempt to match the patina after stripping. need it to stay like the attached picture.
Some red epoxy and get that beige color matched Base coat without clear ages fast Lacquer works will too
Worn thin paint is patina, rust is neglect. I can deal with thin paint, but rust gotta go. That looks like my first paint job. I used some kind of red oxide primer, like rustoleum, then put good automotive enamel on it. It looked great….about 3 months. Then it started peeling off in sheets like that. The primer and paint weren’t compatible, the paint never adhered to the primer. Only cure was to peel it off with a razor blade or sand of what did adhere. I’ve since learned to use products from the same manufacturer to get the best results. I don’t like fake patina. If it’s worth the effort to get the fake look, it’s worth the effort for a proper paint job. I said proper job, not show quality.
The paint looks like a poor attempt at patina as if the white was applied and dusted with red primer then feathered out. The paint peeling off the roof is white while the back of the cab is made to look like the primer is wearing through. Why would the top stay white when it gets the most sun while the back of the cab is made to look like the back cab is weathering. It may be peeling off the roof being wrong paint that can't take the weather. There is no point to saving the paint as it is in full failure mode.
That may be original color but I'd bet dollars to donuts that it isn't original paint It looks like it is pealing like some of the layers of paint/primer on my 48 wih way too many layers of paint an way too little prep work. Scuff and shoot another couple of coats just before Vintiques every year so it looked fresh and go again thinking that I would take it all the way down and do it right some day. I can't find the photos but it's possible that it looked so bad I deleted them. I'll take some in the morning weather agreeable.
My bet is that's house paint that didn't adhere to the original paint. Blow, scrape, power wash and sand that shit of and start over. On the other hand, if you are building a tribute r%# r*d, feather it out and keep on truckin'
why do you post on a thread and not give any feedback, just criticism? Far as I can tell, there’s been a few suggestions. Mostly, sand/strip/ restart. But unless I’m mistaking, a few people suggested to spray something over the roof in an attempt to lock it in. however, I think there is some truth (maybe a lot more than some) to this issue of improper paint. Whether it’s house paint or just not correct for the primer. I have a lot of work to do on the inside and frame, so I’m just gonna let the paint go for now and see what happens. Worst case, I’ll sand it all down and figure out what I wanna paint it next year. I was really hoping to save it, but fear everyone is right about it just popping off down the road regardless.
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