My car is getting close to being painted. It is a 55 fleetwood. Paint color is Toyota speedway blue metallic. Painter tells me he needs 2 gal of paint, because it is translucent. The roof will be painted white. So will it take 2 gal. of paint? He suggested painting over the gray primer with black or dark blue to cut down on the base paint. He suggested using cheap paint and expensive clear coat for the cut and polish. What are the your opinions? I don't have 100% trust in him so I am looking for some in put of others. Thanks, G.
It would be cheaper to use House Of Kolor's "Shimrin" series and it will look like a real custom color. OEM automotive paints are taxed to death.
My '55 Caddy Coop DeVille 2-door hardtop didn't even take a gallon and a half...and the top was a different color (little over a quart for that)...sprayed over gray sealer. Ever heard that old saying "A chain is only as strong as its weakest link"...??? " Cheap paint" is the weak link here, can you afford to do it over...??? R-
This was to be a 6 month resto job that has been 5 years now. Job has been paid for. No use taking legal action, only lawyers win and longer loss of use of the car. Just want to get what I paid for. G.
What brand of paint is he going to use? Two gallons seems a bit much,unless he's using OMNI products that stuff is water thin. I don't even reduce it when I have to use it on a project. Cheap paint is never really cheap paint. You always use 2x as much and by the time your done, you could have bought the good paint for the same price.
It's better to have more left over then to run short and have to get some more mixed which may or may not match.
There is no such thing as cheap paint. If you use cheap paint, it doesn't cover well and you wind up having to buy/use more, therefore no longer being cheap, except for looking that way. If you buy more expensive paint, it will cover better and you will use less material, but the material you do use will be expensive. No way around it, you're gonna spend some money, especially painting a yacht like that. If you use the nicer paint, the car will really pop much better than some lousy OEM finish. DO NOT skimp on the clear though. A good clear will really give your paint job the depth you're looking for, not to mention will cut and buff better. For all the time paint and body work takes, cheaping out on materials is like the last thing I would ever do
I somewhat agree with your painter but only because when I painted my DD Chevy extented cab I used 7/8 of a gallon of the real Dupont. If my truck wasn't two-tone, I would have run out in the middle of the whole process and I was nervous on the last two coats of blue. I gotta believe your car would take more paint than the top two thirds of my truck. My Dupont was somewhere around 450 for a gallon. Counter schmuck tries to get me to go with Nason. It was about half the cost. I went with the Dupont. Sprayed HOK clear over it. Still looks good.
another thing to consider using cheap paint.....the pearls and metallics aren't anything close to the same as the good paint. tint the sealer or use a solid base close to the finish color as mentioned. it will cover a lot faster. as for the shimrins ...i usually tint the base on those as well. and there are some cool colors on a side note....has anyone heard of certain pearls being hard to get , due to the earthquake deal overseas?
I/m not cheap for the paint or clear, just don't want to be ripped of or miss lead. Who makes the best clear coat fora good cut and buff?
Use a good paint, a good clear, a good painter, a good color sander and you can't go wrong. And I agree House Of Color. I disagree on the volumes he is ripping you on that. You only need enough base to hide it is a dye so as long as you have the coverage you are good to go. Never go cheap at this or the prep stage
That's kind of a personal preference of the painter, and what he is used to using. I personally like PPG products and have great luck using DCU 2021 clear coat. Its a nice high solids clear that is durable, sands easy and polishes great.
I work for a toyota bodyshop as a painter and I spray that color all the time, I can say it is one of those colors that does not cover well no matter what brand you use. I would suggest using a dark gray primer or sealer under it as that is what is called for with that color. I kinda agree with everyone on not cheaping out on the materials and two gallons might be on the high side but it is nice to have a little left over in case there is a problem somewhere during the process.
This is good "experienced" advise. Poor hiding colors will require extra coats of color and are usually better under similar toned undercoats. Also the cost of 3 quarts is very close to the cost of a gallon the way automotive paint is priced. Having some leftover for a later repair or touch-up is a good idea on a custom project. Ask to keep the leftover color. overspray
Yeah, I'd say four gallons of sprayable base material should do it. Especially since he's not shooting the roof. Sheesh.
you dont "trust" him..you shouldnt be wasting your time Im no painter, but from what i have painted with light colors or thin pigments, what he said about it taking a bit more for good coverage has also been my experience
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