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Projects Paint question: Kustom shop Kandy

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by lodaddyo, Mar 8, 2009.

  1. lodaddyo
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    any body ever use the urethane kandy basecoat. this is actually for my 67 shovelhead but i thought i would post it here. I like the mayan gold kandy that they have. but i want it with heavier flake. what would be the best way to achieve this. could i just spray a silver base, lay down the flake suspended in intercoat clear, clear it , sand it then spray the kandy basecoat over that, and then clear that? is the kandy basecoat a transparent base?
    i need some help, not really sure on what to do. im not really confident in my painting abilities to do a real kandy paint job.

    http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/ksukb8307.aspx

    thanks for the help
     
  2. sik_kreations
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    not with the kandy basecoat. kandy basecoat is pearl suspended in a candy. its a fake candy thats easier to spray. and looks similiar.

    ull want to take a silver base and throw silver flake or do straight flake over a black base and completely cover the black. either way u will have mulitple clear sessions.

    then u take the mayan gold candy conentrate or use the urethane candy version of it and go to town.

    there are other opitons, just a little more technical. this is the basic.
     
  3. chopolds
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    Kandy basecoat is not very transparent, so you'll lose the metallic first coats fast. Use real candy, looks better, and you can adjust your base metallic to match the look you want. Real Kandy is DEEP looking. The basecoat version is not, even though the color is similar.
     
  4. lodaddyo
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    so i should just go with the candy concentrate, mixed in the clear. how much candy should i order, i want to make sure i have enough. it comes in 4oz bottles.
     
  5. sik_kreations
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    the candy concentrate in 4oz. is fine. its just a dye. then u need the intercoat clear.
     
  6. sik_kreations
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    once it gets coverage u pretty much lose all the look of the groundcolor.

    plus its a pearl mix in the kandy basecoat and not a metallic so it has a little bit different look.
     
  7. lodaddyo
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    so the 4oz would be enough to do the entire job. im painting 2 fenders and fatbob tanks
     
  8. chopolds
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    I'm not familiar with Kustom Shop's products. You need to read the directions on how to mix the concentrate to get a "full strength" candy. I believe the House of Kolor mix is 8-1 for clear to concentrate. You "can" under or overmix the concentrate to get more or less coloring (darkness) but it is also a bit harder to get even coverage, the farther away you go from the recommended formula. This is "as per" HOK's technical staff, BTW. Probably wouldn't make a difference on bike stuff, but on a car it would.
    I would plan on making a full quart of unreduced candy paint for a Harley, should get you 3-4 coats of candy, enough for a nice bright color, and good coverage, but even this depends on the way you spray, your gun quality, tip size, etc. You'll need a bit less than a quart of base, and about a quart and a half of clear to complete the paint job, besides the requisite hardeners, and reducer.
     
  9. MP&C
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    If you are using the concentrate to mix up the candy darker than the normal mix, sure you can achieve the color in less coats, but your depth will suffer. If using it just to mix your own and not have candy left over, I'd stick to the mix formulas posted by chop olds. You should be spraying 4-5 coats to get good depth on the finish (that's why you're using candy, right?) Don't forget to follow the same flash test as your clear, tacky but no strings. Put the stuff on too wet and it will run in a second, real noticeable in candy. I normally paint another "flat" of metal alongside your tins to use as a finger-test panel for flash times when doing candy finish on bikes.
     
  10. sik_kreations
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    i could get it done with the 4oz of concentrate. id make about a quart and a pint-ish sprayable kandy and handle it.



    but on a side note. on a bike i cared about. i would use a catalyzed kandy like uk kandies from hok. for the better uv protection.
     

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