sweet! Let me know how it turns out. Also if you can save any newspaper and masking tape you use while painting....I may need interior soon and can really use it to recover my seats. I'm thinking I can fold the paper in 1" sections for my tuck n roll....
Foam roller and Rustolium. thin teh paint a bit, put 2 coats on, let dry overnight, wetsand, 2 more coats, wetsand, 2 more coats, wetsand, buff. I have personally tested this method, and it works very very well. It's the foam roller and the wet sanding between coats that does the trick. Rustolium self levels pretty well, and the foam roller leaves a very fine texture but you must wetsand to get it dead flat. I'll get a pic of the finish tomarrow, so you can see the results for yourself and yes, Henry did brush his early vehicles.
I'd recommend befriending someone to see if you could borrow or rent some cheap spray equipment. Just ask around or go hang around an auto parts store, shop, or local hangout. Be honest and explain the situation and SOMEBODY will step up to the plate and help you out for cheap...if not for free! Try bartering or trading parts for labor or something. Or get off yer butt and mow somebody's lawn for a couple bucks fer chrissake. Don't do the hand paint job...you'll regret it. I once bought a 41 Chev coupe that had been brush painted. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTT!!!!! that took a long time to get that puppy sanded down for a decent paint. Here's better advice...if you ain't going to do the right thing...don't do it at all! I've seen enough of that one-toothed hillbilly sh*t already!
I just came in from brush painting the innerstructure of a gas pump I'm "restoring" for out in the driveway. Used rustolium. It looks just like I painted it with a brush
Ha, I love you guys. Your such ass holes. Just for the record, I have an air compresser and a spray gun. Over the weekend I brush painted my 50 pickup. Yep, looks like it was brush painted. Now, ask me if I care! My 50 does not fit in my shop. Everything I do with it has to be done outside. My driveway is right side of my house, and the house is white. On the other side of the drive are two customer cars that are currently not moveable. There is no "out back" at my place, everything is in clear view of the whole neiborhood, and people often drive by and stare down the drive. Spraying that truck here is out of the question. The brushed on primer is almost three years old and was pealing off in some places. The truck needed to be painted and with the time constraints I have going on right now, last weekend was the only option. The gallon of paint was Vaspar oil base and cost $22.00 I bought 2 brushes, one at $5.00 and the other one was a $2.00 special. I Da'd the whole truck, did just a little filler work and was ready to paint in about 5 hours. Just for the record, I painted over the dents too. I have used this paint before and I know it has to set for a week before you can sand it or it just gums up the 400 wet-or-dry. I used the paint right out of the can and started on it Sat afternoon and put the second coat on Sunday morning. In a couple of weeks, I'll sand some of the "bumps" out of it and buff it to a shine. For the guy that wants to paint his truck, I have words of wisdom. 1) Paint yor truck in the early morning. 2) Park your truck in the shade, do not paint in the sunlight. 3) Thin the paint. 4) Don't use cheap brushes. For me, the foam brushes always come apart. 5) Pour some of your paint into a small container (about a 1/2 quart at a time or the paint starts to set up) be sure to seal the lid on the gal between refills. stir the paint in the gal each time before refilling the small container. 6) When you have used up what was in the small container, clean it and the brush pretty clean before you refill the small container again. 7) When the small container is nearing empty, stop painting at a pannel seam. You can pour any left over paint back into the gallon and restir it. 8) Have lots of thinner and lots of rags, and something handy to throw them in. 9) Paint the second coat with the brush strokes going in the oppisite direction then the first coat was. (if your brush strokes are side to side on the first coat, do them up and down on the second coat.) If you can, its best to sand between coats if possible. 10) A few weeks after you are done painting your truck, you can sand a lot of the brush strokes off with wet, 400 wet or dry. After sanding, you can buff it out to a decent shine. 11) Don't let these guys get to you. My truck looks good from about 20 feet away, which is lots better then it was. After the sanding and buffing it will look good from 10 feet away, maybe... don't really care. To most people, if the paint shines its all good, to the ones that the brush strokes make a difference too, they can just FUCK OFF, its my damned truck. Of course they are free to buy it and do whatever makes them happy. Gene
I think I'd rather fuck it up for 30.00, then let a body shop fuck it up 3000.00. If I fuck it up, I don't usually bullshit myself. If the body shop fucks it up, there's no end to the bullshit they dish out.
Yikes....I say do it once, do it right and you'll never have to do it again. How long are you expecting this paint job to last? Paint is only as good as the prep work undernieth.....
Hey i've got the kids painting the back of the house, HMM? what a idea i could have them jump on my 32, AH! matching house and rod!!
I sprayed the Thunderbird with $9 black lacquer primer. I roughed it up to give it tooth. (no use if it peels off when you wash it) Looked good till I painted it. Lacquer comes off easy when you get to that point. Good Luck!
nowhere did i mention using latex paint. im not fucking retarded. i also dont plan to use house paint rollers. if by my choice of paint it was not obvious I want to go flat black. Im not looking for nor do i want a deep show shine job. i asked for some advise on painting the old school way properly. im sure if i just "Buy a can of paint. Open it. stir it with the free paint stick ya get from the store. brush it on." it would look like total shit. that is why i am asking for advise on the proper way to BRUSH a car guys. lighten up. you dont want to brush your car dont, but dont tell me im an idiot. this is nothing new I am attempting here, this was done long ago and will look right if done right. probably not as easy as buying spray paint, but i bet it will last much longer. probably not as easy as spraying with a gun and compressor but for a flat black job im sure it will come out just as well. all the guys with advise keep it up. i appreciate it and its giving me more of an idea of whats needed. tyler: yeah its coming along. got that butt ass ugly tool box out. remounted the bed and wood, rewired the dash and gauges, finished the gas tank relocation... plus a bunch of other little shit. the list is getting shorter!
Uh, there isn't one. That's what 40-something posts have been trying to tell you. Go get a $40 gallon of cheap paint, a $50 cheap spray gun, and rent a compressor. You'll be a lot better off and it won't cost you that much more. Plus you'll probably learn something about painting a car.
And FYI I read that thread on the mopar site on this subject (the link was posted earlier) and I have gotta say those retards don't know their assholes from a hole in the ground. I don't know if any of those guys there had ever even done any body work. It amazes me how massive that thread was to be full of dumbass information. This forum is full of people that know what they're doing, well except you of course but we'll beat it into you eventually.
Can't believe I missed this post. I was laughing my ass off. Yeah, it might even look better than the classic Duct-n-Roll we've seen for oh so many years.
now that some locals are offering to help me spray it does anyone have suggestions on paint and prices? If i spray i want to seal it to keep the flat from soaking up moisture and fading. any info on going dp90 with clear coat with a flattening agent? What would the cost for enough to do a shortbed truck be? any other suggestions for flat black if i spray?
Troy, Glad to see that you've changed your mind. I would head over to the nearest auto body supply store(s) and ask those same questions. They have seen/heard it all and can give you ballpark prices, quantity estimates, and alternative solutions to any items you need to address. Ask to speak to the most experienced person(s) there. Opinions may vary but in the end you will be glad you did this. Good luck with your project man!
haha... havent "changed" my mind but keeping an OPEN mind. alot of good advise here on brushing makes it out to be one hell of a job and a lot of wet sanding. I bet spraying will be much easier and quicker for the same (or better) results.i have gotten some other info that you DO NOT want to do a brush job in the heat and its summer here in texas (ie fucking hot), so now that I have other options I am checking into them. bottom line is i want to do this quick and cheap with acceptable results.
Are you even old enough for beer? Maybe you should stick to the sodee pop. Just messing with ya, hehe...
nothing new to me here. try to do something outside of the norm and every smartass jumps up to sling some shit at you. benn there my whole life for those of you with legitimate concerns i appreciate the concern and your opinion. nothing wrong with saying "hey maybe you shouldnt do that" but several people here have given good advise and claim good results and i dont think they are just "fucking with me" im sure theres plenty shitty spray jobs out there like brush jobs. whatever you do you have to do it right or it will look like shit. open your minds and shut your mouths. just because its not the norm dont automatically dismiss it.
If you roll it I guess you could sand any blemishes out. It's really up to you and what you have available. If it sucks you'll know it when your done. These guys here do have a lot of experience in this area and have opinions as well as good knowledge. I am not one to talk. I am rattle canning my shop truck and plan on wet sanding or getting a coarse sponge to it when I am done and touch up as needed. I just got tired of looking at the old paint. I have a fresh motor going in and I am just doin' a little at a time. 1st pic: rear shot. 2nd pic: In this pic you can see the spray lines on the bed. I made the mistake of painting on a windy day. For the most part it has come out pretty even. 3rd pic: I am painting the roof and grill a satin ivory color: I recently painted the hood and scratched the fender putting it back on. I just sanded, shook the can, and resprayed. Vwala! instant touch up.
use decent black primer, black paint with a little flattening agent and do several light coats so it dries before dirt gets in. use the right temp reducer, and a in-line drier, it helps. if you can put it under a carport and hang wet sheets on all 4 sides, you'll do fine. it should be plenty warm down there for it to cure naturally. go for an hvlp gun, easier to learn on. i rattle canned mine to keep the bare metal from showing, and live on gravel roads, so my car isn't a good example. once I move into the new house, expect nice paint.
i think just rattle can would not last as long. thats why i was thinking of brushing. hey zumo i saw you on the 67-72 chevy trucks site... what ever happened to that site, one day poof! and it was gone???
The site is still there. Check it out. Rattle canning it probably wont last long, I agree. Especialy in the Texas sun sitting outside. I am fortunate enough to have a garage and may store it in there till I can get it painted one day.
Alot of it comes down to the prep work. I bet a rattle can job would last longer than you think if the surface was prepped adequately before spraying. I rattle canned the wheels on my trailer a few years ago with only minimal prepwork, and they still look okay, a few chips aside...
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