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Patching tubes. . .

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by FLAT6, Mar 7, 2004.

  1. FLAT6
    Joined: Dec 15, 2003
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    FLAT6
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    Hey guys, can anyone tell me the easiest way to get my tire off so I can patch the tube in there. whats the easiest way to do it without the hydraulic tire remover at shops, can it be done like a bike tire with a wedge by hand?? If anyone can help me out, I need to patch this tube as soon as possible and if there is any way that you know to get a tube fixed quick please let me know. THanks
    Mike
     
  2. I've done many a tire that way, but they didn't have a tube in them.
     
  3. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
    Posts: 9,604

    manyolcars

    You are kidding, right?? Out on the farm in the 40s and 50s and 60s and 70s my grandfathers used a metal wedge and a big hammer to break the bead, then tire irons to pry the tire off the rim. You do know what breaking the bead is, dont you? You probably dont have any idea what a tire iron is, do you? (sigh) Walmart sells tube patch kits. I even saw tire irons for sale recently but dont remember where. This aint the easiest way. This way you sweat. A lot.
     
  4. I've never use the wedge and hammer, I always just put the tire under the truck and use a bottle jack to break the bead.
     
  5. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
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    manyolcars

    [ QUOTE ]
    I've never use the wedge and hammer, I always just put the tire under the truck and use a bottle jack to break the bead.

    [/ QUOTE ]^^^^^^^^and you admit it?? [​IMG]
     
  6. Digger_Dave
    Joined: Apr 10, 2001
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    With the flat tire/wheel off the vehicle; jack up one of the other wheels, (that's still mounted on the vehicle) position the flat tire so the rim is just ouside the one in the air, lower the mounted wheel down on it. That will break the bead. With a couple of tire irons, pry the bead over the rim.

    Work the tube out of the tire. Go purchase a "patch" kit, repair tube, replace, pry tire bead back into place, slowly fill the tube with air until the tire bead pops back into place.
     
  7. FLAT6
    Joined: Dec 15, 2003
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    Yes, I do know what a bead is and I do know what a tire iron is, you hit people in the face with them when they piss you off right??? I just wanted to know if it could be done without damaging the tire or tube even more. I have done tube patches on bikes before, so I ***ume it is the same method, just a LOT harder right?? Thanks
    Mike
     
  8. Luckypabst
    Joined: May 4, 2002
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    I had to patch a tube in my army truck and it lasted about 100 miles after several attempts. Most guys in the know recommend against trying to patch them these days.

    If your wheels are drop center, like most are, you have it easy. After breaking both beads, push one side down until it lines up with the dropped center of the wheel. Pull the bead away from one side of the wheel so the other side of the tire bead goes into the dropped center. Now begin prying. The dropped center is there to allow some room to work with rather than stretching hell outta the tire bead. Owner's manuals used to tell you how to do this. Use the bumper jack to break the bead, similar to how was suggested using a wheel and the car's weight.

    Chris
     
  9. DrJ
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    I always thought they made them nice wedge shaped bases for bumper jacks just for the purpose of breaking beads. put the wheel on the ground in front of the front bumper (use the engine weight) put the jack base on the tire at the rim and jack up the car on it. unless you don't have a bumper...then use one of the similar methods above.
     
  10. hotrodA
    Joined: Sep 12, 2002
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    Couple more tips:
    Break the bead on both sides but only remove the outside bead (valve stem side). Lube well with soapy water.
    Air up the tube and find the hole with soapy water.
    Buff around the hole with sandpaper or a light stone to roughen the surface. Deflate tube.
    Clean buff with acetone or reducer; most important step.
    Apply cement, let dry (!), and apply patch.
    S***ch down patch to remove trapped air.
    Re-install tube and hold stem with core tool or vise grips to prevent tube from backing out of hole.
    Remount bead, BE CAREFUl not to pinch tube between bead and rim.
    Lube bead with soap and air up.
     
  11. FLAT6
    Joined: Dec 15, 2003
    Posts: 386

    FLAT6
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    Thanks for all the replies guys, I broke the bead by setting the car down on the tire, I am gonna just remove the one side like hotroda said and patch it. It's hot outside so I am gonna sweat, but hey, no pain no gain. Thanks again
    Mike
     

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