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    I like EVERYTHING about this Texas photo, not the least
    being the sedan delivery! :)

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    Pretty elaborate promotion for Kissel truck, eh?

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    Grahame, this circa 1906 Frayer-Miller photo is fantastic. Not the least attraction is that it shows the REAL engine,
    not a drawing. The F-M power plant was a pretty unique air-cooled design and was proven to be pretty practical
    and durable. No flash in the pan, the F-M company existed some six years, from 1904 to 1910. The racer in the
    photo is probably extinct, as only a 1908 model apparently survives, a tourer that was once in the Bill Harrah
    collection. Where THAT is now, I don't know!

    The Frayer-Miller interests me, for one thing, because it was dreamed up and built in Columbus, Ohio, where I live.
    The transmission seems to have been pretty conventional. In 1905, Frayer-Miller ran one of their cars in an
    endurance trial of, I believe at least 24 hours. They averaged about 48 mph, though they eventually retired from
    the race because of an accident. Occurs to me, the car pictured may well be THE DEMONSTRATOR from July
    1905. And maybe that is Lee Frayer behind the wheel! Before leaving the race, the F-M car completed 728 miles
    in about 16 hours.

    The Frayer-Millers sold for about $2,500. Though that's not unreasonable for the early labor-intensive cars of the
    time, I think the price tag may have been one key to why they did not stay around for the long haul. So what?
    MOST of the early marques went out of business, right?

    Since there's only one known F-M car, why don't you post this racer pic on the "extinction" thread? I think the
    regulars there would enjoy a gander at the unusual engine. :eek:

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    Restored 1908 Frayer-Miller Touring Car, built in Columbus, OH, by the Oscar Lear
    Co. Whereabouts unknown, but THANKS to American-Automobiles.com for the
    great photo image! Four innovative AIR-COOLED cylinders and 24 hp. The "radiator"
    is, quite apparently, for looks only.
     
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    "This photograph is from the GHMCHS Skeele collection and shows Nancy Skeele at the wheel of a car elaborately draped with crepe paper and flower garlands. Her passengers are not identified. The photograph is undated but the hobble skirt shaped Coke bottles on the wall in the foreground were used after 1917. The ÒM.C.Ó initials in the shield on the car door suggest that they participated in the local Field Day parade representing Marble Cliff. .......................

    The April 15, 1906 Columbus Dispatch reported that local resident Carl Hoster purchased a $9,000 Fiat and a 35 horsepower Pope-Toledo. Samuel Prescott Bush, Eugene Gray, and Theodore Lindenberg followed suit and also purchased Pope-Toledos. ........................

    George Urlin, however, bought a Frayer-Miller with a limousine body. Frayer-Millers were manufactured in Columbus. ..............................


    Mr. HosterÕs $9,000 purchase 102 years ago amounts to $205,000 in 2008 dollars. Interesting that he apparently was accustomed to purchasing his automobiles two at a time!"

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    Urlin Mansion

    Great site and some great photos and information:

    http://www.ghmchs.org/thisweek/photo-listing9.htm
     
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    1906 FRAYER-MILLER 50HP CUP RACER (image by ๑۩۞۩๑COR DRAIJER๑۩۞۩๑) - blower shown at front of engine

    "Description: The Six was the car the two owners designed the blower cooling system for. The 36hp Six was the world's first six-cylinder automobile, and it was unusual in that it was air-cooled. Ohio is particularly cold during the winter, and the system was developed to avoid the problem of freezing radiators and cracked blocks. ......................................."

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    Another innovative machine showcased in the 1906 American Elimination Trial was the unique, air-cooled Frayer-Miller entry with designer Lee Frayer (right) at the wheel. Frayer’s riding mechanician, 16-year-old Eddie Rickenbacker (left), was arguably the most significant historical figure present that day. Rickenbacker later drove in both the 1915 and the 1916 Vanderbilt Cup Races and five Indianapolis 500 Races. He even purchased the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in 1927. His greatest moments came from his career in aviation, where he became America’s World War I flying ace and, later in life, rose to President and General Manager of Eastern Airlines. Click here for a summary of Eddie’s racing career.
     
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    Is that J. Walter Cristie behind them??
     
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