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History Photos taken before WW2 - history in black and white

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  1. jimi'shemi291
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    A pic like this would make a layman wonder
    how Packard could have gone under!
     
  2. T-Head
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    This photo is identified as a 1908 Interstate and it may well be one. Note the early bow legged top irons along with the roll down storm front.
     

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    A Buick?? roadster about the same year as one that EG ownes, hawking tires and Desert Water bags in Salt Lake City. USHS Photo.
     

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    Speaking of Inter-State! SEEMS as if Inter-State was doing
    something RIGHT, at least in the beginning! THIS factory is
    pretty huge for circa. 1908 !!! BTW, the ultra-rare (2 left!)
    Sheridan was made at this plant, post Inter-State.

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    A Franklin with the AERO Package.....
     

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  7. twin6
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    1902 Stanley with a rare (and broken) chain drive. Maine Hist. Soc. photo.
     

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    Are you certain this wasn’t an exaggerated image by the postcard maker? I’ve seen such things before, where they take the building and double its length to make it more impressive.

    Somewhere I’ve seen a vintage image of the Packard Factory in Detroit (which really is huge), showing it in the middle of a park-like woods. It’s in the middle of Detroit! Which is admittedly going in that direction these days, but certainly wasn’t in the era of the postcard.

    -Dave
     
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    Just a guess... maybe a wind mill to turn something inside the trailer while its moving?
     
  10. twin6
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    Something for the followers who like trains too...
     

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    BigCheese, actually you make a very GOOD point
    about postcard "artists" exaggerating and/or doctoring
    images, using various techniques. Even when I
    was a kid, I saw so many postcards, I learned not
    to take them as gospel (sort of like professional
    wrestling! LOL).

    Just the other day, we have the OBVIOUSLY
    doctored Edward Bromley postcard showing a
    mill exploding. Impossible (unless he had an
    inside tipster! LOL). It was doctored after-the
    -fact, to depict a real event in 1878.

    Mag illustrations of cars can be WAY "romantic,"
    too! The color ads for the '42 DeSoto hidden-
    headlight model is a good example. And the
    color ads for the "all-new" '54 senior Hudsons
    are another good example. The artist made the
    Hudson look a city-block long!

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    T-Head, SECOND time today I got caught with my hand in the cookie jar! Well, I'm a hungry guy, so anybody who wants to see the world's biggest pothole had better look fast! LOL
     
  14. Very early attempt at cooling a perishable load, there may be ice in the trailer.Forcing air through , most likely vents in rear doors.
    Re. post 2307
     
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    T-6, RE your mention #2321, yeah, hard not to love trains! Not sure where I found this, but there is a note at top (I usually try & give credit; today I'm off my banana ration -- as if you couldn't tell!)

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    An early White Steamer.....
     

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    A circa 1910 Reo with a coil spring accessory starter.......
     

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    Listen Bud, I don't think you want to toy with us.....
     

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    I was away two weeks shortly after the thread started.
    Going all the way back to Page 1, was the mystery make
    ever really NAILED on this one? If not, I have a strong
    suspicion.
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    Auto telegraph car, no. 2 which is a Winton, which I assume had something to to do with telegraph lines......
     

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    What a great picture. As for the '41 Packard being first with air conditioning, I know a guy that has a '40 w/factory air. It is located in the trunk. I know not a big thing, just thought I'd mention it. Thanks for the Packard pics. I love 'em.
     
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    We will get you all the bananas you can eat in one day, if you nail this one. No one has gotten it. It's a big chain drive number that makes me smile. One theory was that the "B" on the hubcap is not linked to the make at all, but to the owner's last name. Go for it!
     
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    Same, in color?
     

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    jroberts, thanks, man. I only meant that Packard was first with onboardAC. My bad for not being more specific. Actually, good catch!
     
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    Christopher Columbus took a chance, right???
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    '13 Bergdoll Series 40, 121-inch wb, 40-horse, 299-CID L-head
    engine with 5-7/16" stroke, Shebler carb and 10-spoke wheels
     
  27. T-Head
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    Jimi ......Good try but no bananas for you. This is a pix of a 1912 and I looked in the Standard Catalog of American Cars and the 1913 looks the same.

    The mystery car appears to be a very big six ?? (judging by the length of the hood maybe a big 66 HP engine or larger) and has double chain drive where as the Bergdoll is shaft drive......

    The B car also appears to have a wheelbase of about 140" - maybe 150"
     

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    Another interesting home made job. Full elliptic springs, belt drive, lowered steering, and even an oil can under the hood. Brakes?
     

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    T-Head, yeah, I figured, since even the Loco was shaft drive . . . BUT I had to try! The long hood and Spartan visuals said Locomobile, but the 10-spoke wheels did NOT say Locomobile to me. And, YES, the WB sure did seem to longer than 120 inches.

    SO, my backup WAGs were Barnes & Badger, in that order & still just pre-WWI. NEVER say die!



     
  30. T-Head
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    Compare these two......The B car first compared w/a 6-70 Thomas Flyer.

    The Thomas is a huge 5.5" x 5.5" B&S with a 49" long hood and a 140" WB. The Thomas is also a double Chain drive. I have already compared them thinking this maybe a custom.....

    The radiator details on the Thomas are different....The Thomas radiator mounts on the bottom but this one appears to mount from the sides.....But I guess if they used a Thomas chassis they could have used a differnent radiator and hood??
     

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