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+pics(I cant belive im actually contemplating this) So i go to the paint jobber ...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 31Vicky with a hemi, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. Well I tried with duplicolor and got minimal info.
    Aeresol only - Mixed and canned in Illinois - no chance of filling gallons.
    Couldn't get past the CS gate keeper. But I can submit any questions, ideas, or requests via email to the marketing department.

    Sad thing is the corporate headquarters is local here.
     
  2. Well I tried this and had very different results.
    Shook 2 cans, & put in freezer over night.
    The results were 50/50.

    There's a hell of a lot more than a pssssht left in there a hell of a lot more.
    The first one went flawlessly, small hole with an awl so I could plug it up again. Took about 2 mins to pssssht its last pssssht. Opened it with a can opened and emptied the paint into a quart can. perfect.

    Second one started great , then decided it was going to cause trouble.
    I figured this could get screwy so I was doing it outside in front of an old dryer that was destined for the s**** yard , escape plan throw can in and shut door. Good plan right?
    The second can starts with a shower of red paint. By the time I get it in the dryer it looks like a CSI TV show set. I think the can expelled 1/2 its contents in 1/2 second.

    So I decide to go see what's in the quart can from the first can.
    Its bubbling sort of strangely.about 10 bubbles constantly rising to the surface. I figured it was propellant in the paint releasing. I grab a stick to stir it up and all holly hell breaks loose in the quart can. It starts with bubbles like a pot of spaghetti over boiling on the stove. 12 OZ of paint bubbled up to the rim of the qt can.

    Good gravely I should have videotaped this :D

    No marbles, two 3/8 steel balls
     
  3. gwhite
    Joined: Sep 1, 2007
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    What about holding the can upside down and depressing the nozzle? You'll lose a little paint at first but it'll decompress it pretty well. (Just went out into the garage and tried it on a can of Krylon - same nozzle as DupliColor) - make sure you don't shake the can first.
     
  4. You know, I did shake the second can .
     
  5. swade41
    Joined: Apr 6, 2004
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    from Buffalo,NY

    Me being a guy that can't afford a real paint job, I have come up with some creative ways to paint the last two cars. I'm finding your thread here kind of entertaining, in a some what been there opening spray bomb kinda way..lol
     
  6. Ha ha yea its entertaining !

    Made a depressurization device today to safely release the propellant. The prototype does 2 cans at a time. Opened 2 today so that gave me 3 in the Quart can. Funny how 36 oz of rattle can paint fit into a 32 oz can huh ?

    Prepped an odd fender and ran it thru the gun.
    Sprayed beautifully ( man is that a nice color!!! Its hard to not like it )
    Took 20oz (4 coats) of the RTS rattle can paint to cover black primer with the red.

    Then I shot the black candy over that , I'm stoked and have a plan that works.
     
  7. gwhite
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    Sweet! Let's see the decanting device!
     
  8. swade41
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    from Buffalo,NY

    So no bubbles this time around ?
     
  9. tb33anda3rd
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  10. Oh yea there was plenty of latent bubbles in the liquid.
    You can't see them until you , move , stir or pour the liquid paint out of the rattle can. Then the liquid turns to foam lots of it for a few seconds. As the temperature of the liquid rises the more bubbles want to come out. They don't seem to occupy as in reduce the volume of liquid when they leave.

    Definitely need a pressure release or bleed off hole in the quart can or leave it open. Ten bubbles turns into a million and the foam goes to almost 3 x the volume with an aggressive stir. If it was sealed it would surely cause a mess when it was opened.

    Weird **** I tell ya
     
  11. Slickster
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    Thanks for sharing this, my stomach hurts from laughing.
     
  12. Glad I could help :D
     
  13. roddinron
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    This reminds of a story I heard about Howard McNear who played Floyd the barber on the Andy Griffith show. He was at home working on something and a rattle can wouldn't spray so he decided to open it and extract the paint. He took it in his kitchen and used an electric can opener, it was turning and spraying red paint all over the kitchen!
     
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  14. Tnomoldw
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    :)Don Knotts said Howard McNear was not a actor, that's the way he was,:D
     
  15. gwhite
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    Noticed you were having trouble uploading pics...I'll send you a PM with my email address, I'd be happy to post them up.
     
  16. Email sent
     
  17. gwhite
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    Wow, this is sick!

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  18. Pop thru the black. It's black as coal without the sun or halogen
    That's just ****ing bad *** !!!
    These pics do it no justice really.
    Thanks for posting them Gary !!
     
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  19. gwhite
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    No sweat! I gotta think that paint is off the charts in the sun...cell phone cameras and indoor lighting never do a paint job justice.
     
  20. cool57
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    Do a re-take for us!
     
  21. Rattle Trap
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    Wow that paint is awesome. I bet it looks like a million bucks out in the sun.
     
  22. Oh man !! I'd rather not
     
  23. TexasSpeed
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    That would be awesome if we could see a picture of this mysterious hue of red you've talked about.. I'm REAL curious with how you're spraying the rattle-can paint too. Sounds like a real cheap way to end up with a nice finish. Planning on color-sanding or clear/sand/buffing?

    Shoot, I'd love to see a picture of this too!

    Edit: Just came across post 79..

    (Note to self: read through entire thread before opening mouth.)
     
  24. Neither one of those will be possible.
    Pics don't show it.
    Head on down to the parts store and grab a can and some clear . Have at it.
     
  25. nifty
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    Great thread, laughing my *** off one minute and then I get to see what all the fuss is about. Finished colour is worth the effort. Brilliant
     
  26. big vic
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    nice color for sure just read the whole thread you nailed it !
     
  27. redlinetoys
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    The color is cool. House of Color makes a candy black over brilliant metallic red that is a very similar stock available item. And, yes, it is expensive. And frankly it is difficult to apply evenly over an entire ***embled car, much less one panel at a time.

    One concern that should be discussed in this thread is UV stability. Real automotive pigments are extremely expensive, especially bright red, yellow and orange. Typically the pigment is 4-6 times more $$ and it takes 3 times as much dry pigment to get the same hiding. You are going to get what you pay for in this regard.

    Remember many of the great customs in the early days that were found some years later faded away to strange tones of pinkish white and other undesirable hues? There is a reason for that.

    The candy black covering will probably help with the UV resistance, unless it too is a cheap pigment which will turn "muddy" with sun exposure.

    The quality of resins and their exterior stability is a whole additional topic. Needless to say, you are likely applying the least robust resin system possible.

    I dig what you are doing, don't get me wrong. But I just think others getting excited here need to understand what they are getting into before spending a lot of time on something that may not be as expected 24-36 months later in the sun.

    All that being said, I am subscribed and looking forward to additional pics!!!!


    Posted from the TJJ App for iPhone & iPad
     
  28. swade41
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    Man, that color is nice ! So the clear is tinted with black ?
     
  29. blowby
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    Yes it is, very pretty! Hope you can buff all that **** out of it. :)

    Does that fender go on the '31 Vicky? :) I've been itching to see that thing bigger than the avatar.
     
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