Pics of different styles of old engines

Honda motorcycle motor powering an 8N ford

 

That just seems wrong.

 

Here's one better. Go for a ride on a self powered manure spreader!!!!

 

Here's my input. Tunnel port 427.

 

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first model T engine made by a private co. In San Bernardino ca.

discussed here on the HAMB

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=397594&highlight=first+model+v8&page=249


Default Re: first model T V8
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Originally Posted by 39cent View Post
who knows info about a V8 made for the model T back in the 20,s. I once stumbled over an engine in the back room of a san Bernardino wrecking yard. It was hooked up to a model T transmission, and it looked like it was made for the T. The block was not like fords later flathead, but more like 2 T blocks in a V! It didnt look like an adaptation. I asked the guy there and he said there were several made, and were used in Taxicabs in town. I had never heard of it and have asked many people but they hadnt heard or seen one. Then about ten years ago a buddy showed me a pic of it in the model T club magazine! ??
I sent this post to the HAMB at the end of 2007, and finally found some info in google about the mysterious V8 Model T built in in San Bernardino.


One of the more interesting tales of the Gentry Ford era was his development of an eight-cylinder engine for the Model T. Earl E. Buie wrote about it in his “They Tell Me” column in the September 5, 1960, issue of the San Bernardino Evening Telegram. Some of the particulars differ from later recounts of the same events, but since Buie’s story was written while Gentry was still alive and active, it is ***umed to be more accurate.
Ford Motor Company brought out a V8 engine for their 1932 Model B, quite an improvement over the four-cylinder engines common at the time. This is considered Henry Ford’s last major innovation, and it put his company ahead of the compe***ion for the next 20 years. However, according to Buie, Gentry had the company beat by 15 years, for it was in 1917 that he and Martin Lewis, who was active in the automobile industry in Los Angeles, joined to produce their own V8 engine. They modified the Model T four-cylinder engine using parts manufactured and ***embled in San Bernardino. In other words, both Detroit and San Bernardino were manufacturing car engines during World War I. Judging from this description by Buie, the Gentry-Lewis engine was a great innovation:
The eight-cylinder block was fitted onto the Ford Model T engine crankcase, and used the same crankshaft, camshaft and carburetor. It could be installed in a matter of hours and converted the comparatively rough running four-cylinder motor into a powerful motor of smooth performance and high efficiency. And the cost? A mere $175.
Hanford Foundry cast the block, head and manifold, and Charles Linderoth’s Machine Works at Rialto and I Streets bored the cylinders. (The foundry is now gone. However, the machine shop building still exists, but most of its tools and other equipment have been removed and it is no longer an active business. Most recently it has been known as Toman’s Machine Works.) The engines were ***embled by Gentry’s expert mechanics, four of whom Buie identified by name: W. E. (Slim) Vardy, John Wallace, Johnny Kennedy, and Walter Mapstead.
Twenty or 30 engines were built over a period of about one year. When Ford representatives heard about the Gentry-Lewis engine, they came to inspect it, and were not pleased. They told Gentry that their dealers must limit activities to selling their Fords, and that he must desist from further sales of his engine, which he did. Gentry kept his first engine in storage for about 40 years before loaning it to a Gentry Ford successor, Garner-Muth Ford. Garner put it on display for a while, but it eventually was sent to the Ford Museum in Michigan.
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Couple of thoughts...To my knowledge a T engine does not have a separate crankcase so the gentry-lewis had to have been a one peice cyl/crankcase like the eventual Ford v8? Think Ford paid attention? The cubic inch was probably kept low [smaller bore than T so pistons had to be made/found] on purpous to limit the power made so as to not overload the rod bearings if/since they were narrowed to fit the stock T crank pins..Just from what I've read a 180° crank in a v8 application has an inherent imbalance so I can't see that the engine would be smooth, maybe just smoother than a T or just never got high enough rpm to matter? I never thought about it but with a little valve placement/camshaft fore-aft-height ajustment a 4cyl cam should work fine...Neat build..Never fails to amaze me what people thought of doing and how they did it way back when..