I was talking (grilling for info) to Manual Cisneros last night and I realized that every pinstriper has their own "recipe" for laying down the line... but there is also some fundamental steps that we all must follow. We all have to clean our brushes, we all have to get the paint on the brush, etc... So I thought that maybe we could all learn a little if the stripers on the HAMB could answer a few simple questions... 1. What paint are you using? 2. What do you clean your brushes with? 3. What do you oil your brushes with? 4. What size and brand brushes do you prefer? 5. How do you store your brushes? Thanks in advance for taking a little time... viva la HAMB. - Joe
I've only been striping a few years. I use 1-shot paint. I clean my brushes with mineral sprits and sometimes laquer thinner. I oil them with air tool oil. I use 00 Mack. Most of which are older than me. I use all my dad's old stuff. I store them in my paint box. Hope it helps.
1. What paint are you using? One Shot 2. What do you clean your brushes with? Mineral Spirtits 3. What do you oil your brushes with? I forget 4. What size and brand brushes do you prefer? Mack 10 000 5. How do you store your brushes? oiled in a brush case
1.one-shot 2.used mineral spirits left over has oil in it from cleaning the oil out of brush 3.3n1 oil 4.mack series10 size 0,and00 5.oiled in brush box lined with paper towels 6.what i use to reduce paint with one-shot hi-temp reducer
1.one shot,alsa,hok,depends on color/job being performed 2.mineral spirits 3.clean motor oil 4.mack 00 5.store them laying flat in handmade tray
One shot, mineral spirits, neatsfoot oil, mack 20 (blue wrap) 000, and oiled in an upright brush holder.
Can I add a question or three? Do you clean the brushes with mineral spirits prior to using again - do you leave them wet, or try to get as much mineral spirits out as possible before painting, AND how saturated with oil are your brushes when you put them away, do you try to get as much oil off as possible? These are things that never got explained to my satisfaction. Sorry for the dumb questions and the pseudo-hijack.
I agree w/ Gigantor & his questions, I would like to add another. Has any of you used the Kafka brushes sold in Eastwood & if so, are they worth a damn? I'm on the fence about trying them, mostly concerned w/ bristle quality & overall performance. Thanks in advance, I'm always searching for good info on striping. I've really learned alot by checking out the Pinhead lounge, great stuff.
One shot,mineral spirits,clean******* fluid,mack sword,blue or green,excaliber and mack lettering brushes, I store them in an plastic box with the foam strips, When I store them I drowned them in******* fluid and make sure it gets to the heal of the brush so the paint that's still there doesn't dry out. I think you should stick with pickin Cisneros' brain though.
My Answers: 1. What paint are you using? 1Shot 2. What do you clean your brushes with? Hi Temp Reducer... but I'm going to switch to mineral spirits. The reducer seems to leave the brushes really stiff. 3. What do you oil your brushes with? WD-40 spray. 4. What size and brand brushes do you prefer? Mack 00 for striping and a couple of el cheepo brushes that I got at Aaron Brothers for lining and painting. 5. How do you store your brushes? The brushes with the long handles go into a cup 1/2 full of small screws and the striping brushes in a used dixie cup. - I do have 1 more question... it's about dixie cups, I have seen a couple of guys using them the palate the brush, but I missed the trick. I use a magazine to palate on, it's easy to get a clean page and the paper is nice and smooth... So anyone use dixie cups & what's the trick?? thanks! - Joe
I think the trick is practicing at something. I use a magazine, but a sign lettering guy that I've met uses plastic pill cups. I've tried it but I don't have it down yet.
Hey, #1 One Shot & automotive alkyd #2 Turps. or dirty sprits & on rare occation keroseen #3 compressor oil #4 Mack OO & OOO, Grumbacher, Lanickle #5 Laying flat on plate glass, drenched in oil Swankey devils C.c.
one time i was in a bind and used olive oil to clean and oil. It worked great! Ive read all of these new tips on how to oil and clean and such.. and what brushes you use. But to be honest. It doesnt really matter.. use what gets them clean to clean them. and also they done really need to stay wet really. people oil them so that the residue of paint on it doesn't harden and make the brush stiff. So if you get them clean, you dont need to oil them. Now brands of brushes dont really matter either.. none of them really offer any more springyness or load more paint.. its the guage and the cut that matter.. your going to have to play with it is all i have to say. use a watercolor steno pencil to draw out a design. trace it with your ONE SHOT. and take your time. noone pinstripes quickly. PRACTICE and always sign your stuff! wayne
Olive Oil... that's pretty funny! I have heard of guys using lard, but it would go rancid or attract vermin. Manual said that he stores his brushes in baby oil... might be because he has a 7month old. - Joe
1. 1-Shot and HOK I also liked the EZFlowStriping Enamel I tried yesterday. 2. Mineral Spirits and Rapid Remover + Ultrasonic cleaner. 3. Neatsfoot oil 4. Mack series 10 #000 5. Oiled up in an aluminum brush box
1-Shot, Mineral Spirits, Mack00 and a Jensen Swirly Q, Wall Dog Brush Oil, I like long walks on short piers and a good pizza. No anchovies.
1. What paint are you using? Oneshot 2. What do you clean your brushes with? Mineral spirits 3. What do you oil your brushes with? neatsfoot 4. What size and brand brushes do you prefer? mack- pizza boy 5. How do you store your brushes? On a shelf
I'm glad people like them and learn from them. If anyone has any ideas for some new ones let me know.
1.one-shot 2.mineral spirits 3.3n1 oil 4.mack series10 size 000 5.oiled in brush box 6.what i use to reduce paint with mineral spirits or one-shot hi-temp reducer
1. What paint are you using? 1- SHOT 2. What do you clean your brushes with? LAQUER 3. What do you oil your brushes with? MOTOR OIL 4. What size and brand brushes do you prefer? MAC 000 & 00 5. How do you store your brushes? BRUSH BOX
Great info. One more stupid newbee question... 6.How do you store your paint? I saw a guy who drilled a hole in the lid and used a screw to seal it, any other tricks?
Sounds kinda messy.. but it would help you use less paint. I know that most body shop supply companies sell small empty cans, when mine get all gacked up I dump the paint into a new can.. - Joe
Yes I clean the brush to remove the oil, then I wipe the brush with a paper towel or clean rag, then spin the brush between my hands to remove the excess. Then I begin to palette the paint. When I put the brush up, I palette in oil to work the oil into the hilt. If you allow the brush to dry without oil, you take the chance of paint being in the hilt and the hairs will spread with static electricity. The oil holds the bristles together and maintains the shape. I always match the paint to the thinner as per directions. One shot gets mineral spirits or reducer that matches the temperature if extreme. With the newer base coat paints, I thin the base with the recommened reducer and add a few drops of hardener so it will set up, and then it is ready for clear. Things I will never do: Let water or lacquer thinner touch my brushes. Also, never let a striper tell you that it is wrong to use a pounce pattern or layout pencil when striping. The work will be better, and you won't have to look at mismatched lines for the rest of your life. I have been doing this, off and on, for 40 years. When I was young as a living, and as I am older as a hobby. I quit because I never made any money striping and I always had to work at a car meet when everybody else was having fun. My credentials are getting old, but my proudest moment as a striper was striping the Rolls Royce Serial #3, the first privately owned Rolls in the world. It was restored by Millard Neumann, who owned the Hav-A Tampa cigar company in Tampa, FL. I striped most of his Rolls' I also striped for the older restorers in Florida, The Hovey Bros, Bud Josey, Bill Woolridge, Phil Belote, and thousands of hot rodders, unfortunately, many of them have passed on, so you will have to take my word for it. When pulling long lines, work on the very tip of the brush and increase pressure slightly as you pull to maintain the width of the line.
Hey HotRod... thanks for the great advice. #3 Rolls! Any chance that you have any pix of your early work, I'd love to see them. - Joe
I have a few shots, but I wasn't smart enough to zero in on the striping. Neumanns Rolls, this was a 1912, a Metz Roadster, Bill Woolridge's 32, Lou Campbells T speedster. Sorry about the quality.
I used to do exactly the same thing.I was more interested in a pic of the car than what I had painted on it.I didn't even start taking pictures of my work until about 10 years ago.
That may be the best tip we could offer to young stripers, take pictures of your work, you will be glad later. Plus it will show how you progress.
1. What paint are you using? all One Shot 2. What do you clean your brushes with? Mineral Spirits 3. What do you oil your brushes with? Brush conditioner from Hobby Lobby....Yeah, I was cheap in the beginning, but that***** works good! 4. What size and brand brushes do you prefer? My two favorites are a Mack Series 20 #1, and an Excaliber #0. Just bought a Series 10 #1 and a Kafka, so I'm hoping they work out. 5. How do you store your brushes? In the little plastic airtight tubes they came in. 6. I reduce w/ mineral spirits, One Shot standard reducer in a can that came in too thick, or one that I didn't close all the way. 7. I palet out on ads out of Sunday's paper....Only the jewelry ads(heavier wax), because they won't absorb the thinner or the paint. 8. I photograph all my work so I can learn from it. New designs, stuff I did that I can embelish on, and things I did that didn't work out so well. If you're serious about it, then you'll stick with it. I had pinstripes tattooed down the backs of my forearms so I can be reminded every morning when I wash my face that I need to pull some more lines.
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