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Planishing Hammer

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Unkl Ian, Sep 11, 2004.

  1. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian

    I recently completed an album for the Planishing Hammer I built last year,
    for Joe Sulpy's of Ledgewood NJ.
    Planishing hammer pics here.

    The pictures and text tell the story.Any questions,just ask.

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  2. willowbilly3
    Joined: Jun 18, 2004
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    willowbilly3
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    from Sturgis

    Would any good air chisel work? What about the tooling and anvil, did you purchase or make your own?
     
  3. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian

    Any decent air chisel would work.That one is a Cleco Rivit gun.

    I made the tooling shown.The Delrin machined up real nicely,
    but didn't stand up as well as I would have liked.He has hardened steel tooling now.

    Uppers can be purchased from yardstore.com with a .401" or .498" dia stem.
    Lowers can be made by anyone with a lathe,or you might be ab;e to find them on E-bay.
     
  4. willowbilly3
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    Thanks, I was also wondering what is the best reasonably priced expensive foot control
     
  5. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian

    Good question,because Joe want to get one.
    I looked in the McMaster Carr catalog,and came up empty.

    Might have to post that question on the Metalshapers board.
     
  6. plan9
    Joined: Jun 3, 2003
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    thanks for the post, deffinately something to add to the "to do" list
     
  7. Slag Kustom
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    looks good . one day ill get around to making one. i was going to use air craft rivet dies for mine.
     
  8. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    Flat Ernie
    Tech Editor

    [ QUOTE ]
    Thanks, I was also wondering what is the best reasonably priced expensive foot control

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Would the one from a sand-blaster work? If so, check TPI - they sell 'em...


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  9. banzaitoyota
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    The foot control from www.tptools.com may work very well in this application
     
  10. willowbilly3
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    willowbilly3
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    from Sturgis

    [ QUOTE ]
    Thanks, I was also wondering what is the best reasonably priced expensive foot control

    [/ QUOTE ]
    I just re read my post, sorry for the stupid sounding description, I had edited it wrong before and should have left out the word expensive
     
  11. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian

    McMaster carr wants over $150,these guys want $100,for an American made foot pedal. TP Tools.
     
  12. metalshapes
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
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    Is there a difference in what kind of Rivet Gun or Air Chisel you use, noise wise?
    A buddy of mine has an old Planishing hammer and it is unbeleveably loud.
    And when I saw a rerun of the Bike Buildoff with Billy Lane this week he was using one that seemed to be not nearly as loud.
    ( I believe it said Northridge tools on it, or something like that...)
    I would not mind spending more, if it means I can use it more often...
     
  13. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian

    I think the CP type machines might be slightly quieter,but they are alot more money.

    Some rivit guns have a built in muffler.

    The one pictured is real loud,because the noise echoes inside the hollow frame on the English Wheel.
     
  14. metalshapes
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
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    What is a CP type machine?
    I would really like to know these things because I will need to get one soon.

    Also, what would be the best place to get a Shrinking and a Doming Die for my Pullmax?
    I was thinking about ordering those from Fay Butler.
     
  15. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian

    CP is Chicago Pneumatic.They used to make serious planishing hammers for the aircraft industry.
    These machines will still bring over $5000 on Ebay.

    They use a foot pedal to push down on the air motor.The harder you push,the more air it gets,
    the faster it runs and the harder it hits.
    Some parts are being reproduced byMichigan Pneumatic for anyone interested in making a new machine with CP style mechanicals.

    With the more common(less expensive)rivit gun style machines,the motor is stationary.

    Lots of info on both types on metalshapers.org

    Fay Butler,or Clay Cook,would be a good source for thumbnail shrinking dies for a Pulmax.
    But they won't be cheap.

    Clay Cook also sells some real nice planishing hammers. http://ccookenterprises.com/index.html
     
  16. metalshapes
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    Thank you for the info, Unkl.
     
  17. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian

    If you mount it on a dedicated stand,and fill the stand with dry sand,it will be quieter.
     
  18. fab32
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    You can also make inexpensive tooling using grade 8 bolts by turning them on a lathe using carbide as a turning tool. After they are shaped you can polish them with a hand held beltsander while turning them in the lathe, or abrasice cloth wrapped over a paint stick.

    Frank
     
  19. Rather than buying an expensive foot operated pedal, I am going to use an old motorcycle cable using a home made cam to operate the trigger of the rivet hammer, whilst using an old Dragster pedal to operate the cable, a return spring would also be needed.

    Will cost around nothing to make

    cheers

    Bob
     
  20. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian

    I was going to make one using an aircraft push-pull cable and a rotary cam,with a foot pedal.
    .However time and cir***stances have prevented that.
     
  21. 48stude
    Joined: Jul 31, 2004
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    My planishing hammer uses a pneumatic Linemaster Switch.
    You can buy these at Enco tools for around $37.00. Bill
     
  22. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian

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