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  1. suedesled
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    Hey, I'm just going by what I am told about you. Isn't that what your doing? How can you find time to do anything when you have 3,000 posts on every board your on. I haven't updated the web pics because I am busy building parts so I can't sit here on the computer like yourself.
     
  2. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
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    zman
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    from Garner, NC

    Yeah I have a whole 26 post on V8Buick.com, real ****ing close to 3000....:eek:

    But I work in front of computer for 8 hours a day, and I'm damn good at it which gives me plenty of time to hang out on the HAMB... And you haven't been told **** about me... you just make it up as you go along... I've seen your lies here, I've seen them on the Yahoo group, and on V8Buick.com... So is the bellhousing done? Was it shipped? Or did you make that **** up? Trying to make this about me isn't gonna get you off. You need to get your **** straight. I'm not the one selling ****, taking peoples money and not delivering... You've threatened one of my friends before with a nonexistant patent or patent application, can we have the number for it? You ****ed a friend on a motor, and claim he's making it up... You lied and made **** up to a customer on V8Buick.com and then claimed he was lying.... You've done it here more than once... What's the story? It's not about me it's about you being a thief and ripping people off and tellign lies about it... Always an excuse... always someone elses fault... Always some BS story....
     
  3. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
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    zman
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    from Garner, NC

    So what's the story Marty? Did it ship? Is he lying? Are you going to give him his money back? Whay didn't you feed him the line about your back then instead of lying to him?
     
  4. suedesled
    Joined: Dec 10, 2002
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    We accepted deposits for the bellhousings when we started the mold process and expected to have them mid-summer but we had a casting problem to resolve. Everyone was notified of the delay and I have updated everyone who calls. The fact remains that we are the only one doing this stuff and it isn't an easy task or everybody would do it. I'm not superhuman; just a regular guy trying to do something cool for the hobby I love. It's stressful to me too and sometimes I ask why I don't just quit and go work for someone else. The answer is: I'm not a quitter.

    Also; I have had several successful businessmen tell me that they are successful because they failed or screwed up. I failed once; and I make mistakes but I keep trying. I wish everyone would give this a shot to see how hard it is.
     
  5. titus
    Joined: Dec 6, 2003
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    gees, it seems like people have way to much computer time!



    casting stuff does take some time and some capital, thats why he needs money in advance, and its very hard to put a date when stuff will come out because you are counting on many other people, casters, machining etc etc, another thing is that when someone has stuff casted there are sometimes troubles with pouress casting, then they have to resolve that, and oh yeah, you have to pay for every cast made wether good or bad, so if you have 100 made that are usable, maybe you have 25 that are bad.

    I will still use Marty as a source for nailhead parts when i get to that point, all we are seeing here is the bad incidents, not any good ones, id like to see some of the good que in, whos happy with him?

    now its time to get back to working in the garage.

    And to have to wait for parts that i order in the future, its gonna happen, and sometimes its gonna be a long while, eddie meyer intake, how long do you have to wait for them?? my girlfriends dad waited 2 years!! hows about ch***is engineering beam axle?

    bye bye and happy arguing
     
  6. suedesled
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    Yeah, He got his parts. Read his post. His check was returned and I haven't sent it back out. I will but I haven't been here much due to the family and my countless doctor appointments. This is a fact!
     
  7. suedesled
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    Exactly, I have hundreds off castings here that where prototypes or had mold problems that needed fixed. All of which I had to pay for. We did cast this bellhousing once(actually 25 of them) I had to eat them all. Anyone who has come to this shop can verfiy how much work is being done. Hell; order an Offy intake and see how long it takes, Or how about Don Orosco's stuff. Very expensive and takes a lot of time. Don't get me wrong; I like Don and his parts but it is an example that this stuff takes time and doesn't always go as smoothly as you hope.
     
  8. Ragtop
    Joined: Nov 17, 2001
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    Man! I've got my carbs all boxed and ready to go, but now I'm having second thoughts. Maybe I'll just try rebuilding them myself.
     
  9. Ratty
    Joined: Apr 20, 2005
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    Hey Marty , never dealt with you , or many guys over there , mainly cos I'm in the wrong country . Reading this lot as an outsider I can see both sides have issues , and thats never good .

    Thing is , from what I can see , if you're that busy with work , and you've got stuff going on on the personal side , a simple solution to this problem is communication .

    Surely it'd be possible to set up a simple e-mail list for your customers waiting on parts ? You write an email to all the guys waiting for castings and send it out as an update once a month or whatever , same for guys waiting on carbs etc .

    If people are kept informed then they tend to be more understanding of delay's , and doing it this way keeps you in the workshop and not spending time on individual calls and emails .

    I make no judgement as to who's right or wrong in this dispute , you could rightly say its none of my business , but for a situation to get to this stage does no-one any favours .

    Hope everyone comes outta this smiling in the end .
     
  10. suedesled
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    Thanks, We'll get through it with the support of our friends and dedicated customers. Like I said this isn't easy to do
     
  11. rockabillyjoe
    Joined: Jan 25, 2004
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    from Seattle

    Marty.
    I apologize for my rant. It may have been premature for me to spout off. I opened my mouth due to the amount of negative comments I have read in this thread. I don't exactly know "ALL" of the history surrounding the motor rebuild of the Lincoln. I do know that something went haywire in the bottom end. I thought that it was a pushrod but It wasn't Hoping that it was a lifter problem after that I replaced all of the lifters. (I believe in doing them all at once." Well the top end noise went away but the bottom end is really loud. So now I get to go the journy of finding someone to go through this motor without knowing anything about what has been done inside. "bearing sizes etc." So needless to say, I'm a little pissed that I have to try and source everything for a motor that is hard to find parts for. If you have any suggestions please PM me.
     
  12. suedesled
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    The problem is that this happens everytime someone has some trouble. Then I continue to help even after I get a public hanging. All in all however there are a lot of great people I meet along the way and that keeps me going. I just wish they would chime in on posts like this. Everyone wants to cheer a fight but nobody wants to mediate one. If you notice we where doing great until a few months ago. This is when my son was born; my back went out and I let go of a few slackers(took 2 months to find a good crew.) The bummer is that I got behind and instead of some comp***ion I got crucified. I will continue to march on but I plan to spend more time with my family and hope I won't be confined to a wheelchair for a while. This is no ******** guys. If it weren't for Cherry Dollface's husband and their car club I couldn't have set up at the Hot Rod A rama.
     
  13. ALLISON
    Joined: Oct 26, 2004
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    Hey Marty,

    This thread reminds me of the hotrod thread a month ago I was being bashed on. I'm glad we took care of the problem we had and simpathize with the guys who are haveing thier own problem. I think its wrong to bash someone on a forum like this because people only hear one side, and everyone wants to join in and get thier licks in, thats a little of what had happened in my case. I had to jump on here (the HAMB) and defend myself. Anyway, I'm glad I did because I might not have gotton on here otherwise, I hope your back problems get taken care, your family in the south is safe and from the sound of it your production problems are almost under control too.
    I also wanted to say, I was serious about helping you out with the nose design of that pickup we talked about, shoot my email some pics and I'll work something up or bring some shots to Billetproof and we talk about it. Hope you get all this under control, see you in a few weeks.
     
  14. hemi coupe
    Joined: Dec 25, 2001
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    from so-cal

    I think the problem you are having all stems from communication and money issues. Dude nothing gets a man more pissed off, then messing with his money or his old lady. Maybe you should have prototyped the product, finish machined it, tested it, then put it up for sale to the public. Dude to be honest with you I heard some funny stuff when you were down here, then I saw that you started N.W. Speed, I thought cool man, maybe that guy got his head screwed on right. I really think you could have a good thing going, just be honest with your customers, send them refunds, do whatever it takes. I am not trying to bash you, I hope nothing but the best for you, your family and your back.
    Jimmy White
     
  15. telriv
    Joined: Aug 24, 2005
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    telriv
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    from Conn.

    1st. off guys we are all in this for the fun that can be had out of this type of auto hobby. Most of us have been there with the car shows, drag racing, motorcycles & many other forms of motor sports. Most of us have the same interests in mind basically. Some of we have the talent to repair & fab. Some have ideas that will further a particular instance. Some can only rely on parts that are made by others. Some have no knowledge at all & are here just to have fun. One thing for sure about a Hot-Rod is that no matter what it is, it is a hot-rod & everyhting that's on or connected to it is right. That's because that's what YOU WANT!!!! Not what the factory built & can't be conceived as right or wrong. I also believe that real hot rods have 3 pedals, no a/c , pwr. windows or cup holders. Not all can acheive that because of whatever restraints they believe in or can afford to do, or have the knowledge or skills to perform such tasks.
    As for myself I enjoy the hell out of the hobby & coming up with new ideas, supplying a need, or trying to make the NailHeads that are out there FASTER!!! This part of MY HOBBY is last in line when it comes to family, home, business, & the myriad of other obstacles that come in the way & are part of life.
    As an example, I made a market for mini-starters for the NailHeads. Then, through no fault of my own wasn't able to supply the market. I created a market then couldn't supply the market. That was a GIANT PERSONNAL let down for me as well as the financial impact it made not getting what I paid for, with I might add, no recourse. Trying to resolve the problems took almost a year to resolve with another manufacturer. All this while also trying to run a business, family & other things in between.
    Then I came up with the idea of rocker arms. How hard could that be???? Well, it all started in Nov. 99. After all the BS, ups & downs, dreams, aspirations & desires it has finally come to fruition. The good that has come out of this is that more than 2 1/2 years later I can sell a set for more than $225.00 less than I was quoted 2 1/2 years earlier to those who trusted me & sent in deposits.
    Some things are totally out of our control. When I was called in the past about starters I told the caller I didn't have any starters at that time. Some gave me a phone number or e-mail address. I would be in touch . When it did come time 80% found another solution when I called or e-mailed. Can't blame them. Same with the Rocker Deposits. I was always SOOOOO CLOSE, SOOOOOO many times. I had timeline after timeline go to hell. Some couldn't wait or cir***stances changed. Through all of this I have tried to stay in touch as best as possible given the time restrants.
    It's all about time management & communication. Some of which, I will admit, I have a hard time at & are very poor at times. One instance I sold someone something that I considered rust free. What I really meant was that it didn't have any rotted holes in it & that the metal & surrounding parts were extremely solid, but the part WAS RUSTY, my bad. I believe the buyer was happy anyway to get a 55+ year old part that wasn't rotted out. It's all about communication & also the buyer has to has his eggs in a row to remember to ask the right questions. WRITE IT DOWN, so you don't get side tracked. It takes mis-communication on both sides to end up with results as have been mentioned. I could very well be wrong, but that is the case many times.
    R&D is expensive, even if it's wrong it still has to be paid for. Just because this is my hobby (or our hobby) that I enjoy, it's not everyones hobby who can or will do R&D for free. The ones who are contracted have familys & busineeses to run & bills to pay just as we do. Can't expect them to cut us a deal because we F^%$# up. It's all a learning process, but it all costs $$$$$.
    I'l get off the soap box for now. Good luck to you Marty as you are one of a very few individuals who has crossed the line to produce no longer existent parts or new parts that weren't ever available. Remember that this is being done by few individuals who have a love for something with the bottom line not always being the $$$$$$ aspect of it, for all that it costs it's mostly a loss. I just ask everyone do your best to clear up these matters to better (being selfish) our communities & our interests.

    Thanks,
    Tom Telesco
     
  16. kustombuilder
    Joined: Sep 18, 2002
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    from Novi, MI

    well i for one sure hope everything works out for everyone involved. i'm real excited about the parts your making or have in the works. i had concidered myself making that very same Nailhead Bellhousing, since i plan to run a Tremec 6 speed behind my 401. i looked into it and decided it would be very expensive and alot of work, so i bought a Nailhead to AMC trans adapter/bellhousing and figured i'd have my buddy help me cut and TIG it till it did what i want it to. i would have liked to have manufactured that part but i knew i did'nt have the funds or the time (not if i wanted to do anything else). i applaud you for for your efforts and i'm glad you chimmed in with your side of things. i realy hope you get things figured out and can make at least the majority of your customers happy. you can't always please them all, this i know.

    good luck to all involved.
     
  17. zman
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    from Garner, NC

    Hmmmm... after you told him the bellhousing shipped three times... or is he lying like all the others... Yeah his check was returned.... He got an auto adapter after you already jacked him around... this is the same **** and you have the nerve to attack me.... what ****ing gall.... there seems to be a few that want to kiss you *** over all this, I won't be one of them and I'm sure that every time this comes up there are more that become weary of you.... Face it you can't get you story straight... and that's the facts...
     
  18. suedesled
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    Yeah he asked for one of the protypes for mock up purposes. That's what I said I would send and then decided I didn't want it out there. You don't know as much as you think you do.
     
  19. zman
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    So did you tell him that you shipped it? Or is he lying?


    Oh and what was that patent number on intake spacers? You're real good at avoiding the actual questions....

    And I know enough to not deal with you....
     
  20. suedesled
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    Never said it was shipped and I sent you the patent application number. You are so good at keeping track of all this. Funny you don't remember that. Get a life.
     
  21. zman
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    from Garner, NC

    ********... You never sent me any such number... Nor did is there one in the USPTO.gov database for Martin Lackner or any intake spacer.... Post it here.... So everyone can see that you are lying.....

    And you're saying that he lied... That you never told him it had shipped. Just like all the others have lied and it's never you... ********....
     
  22. Hey,

    After my long term ex and I broke up...I find myself missing the drama in my life. Lucky the HAMB is there for me when I need a fix...

    Seriously, I say this to Suede: step up to the plate man and settle the whole deal with all of your customers. Call everyone personally and ask whether they are happy to wait or would like thier money back. This will hurt you financially but letting things roll on like this will hurt you more. No matter what the "whole" truth is people always remember the bad over the good and there is no winning the argument here from a public relations point of view.

    Sometimes you just got to go to someone with your hat in your hand and say I ****ed up, sorry; even if its not directly your fault. The thing about being a manager of business or an owner, is the buck ultimatly stops with you. Staff problems, your repsponsibility, back issues your responsibility, supplier delays your responsibility. Everything is your responsibility and you have to shoulder it and not palm it off.

    I think you can come back from this. You have happy customers and a good product, so see this is an opportunity to change the way you do business and enjoy the success that will follow and let alot of people enjoy a quality product.

    Danny
     
  23. V8
    Joined: Oct 7, 2002
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    Sorry about your family and many problems you've had, but I paid you straight up and deserve the change. It's my money and isn't my responsibility to keep calling with reminders. It doesn't take long to write a check. That's all I ask...
     
  24. kustombuilder
    Joined: Sep 18, 2002
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    kustombuilder
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    from Novi, MI



    wise words Psychobilly Boi. wise words indeed.
     
  25. 5window
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    What he said! 85 posts later and we're back to this-product or refund?That's all he asked to start with.

    Who knows from patents or risers or bellhousings-lot of folks upset and lots of mud flung here. But the bottom line is this man asked and has yet to be answered. Please.
     
  26. Kurt
    Joined: Nov 18, 2003
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    This is horse**** on Martys part and if he was a businessman he would know better. These people are not investors in his so called company. These people are customers. expecting a product from him in a reasonable time. If he was taking deposits he should have had all the ******** worked out in the first place before even saying **** about the product and taking orders. Yes it takes time to develop molds and patterns, i know i have been thru it also. But i used my own money not smoke up a bunch of peoples ***es about my ****ing pipe dream. It is called a return on your investment.

    Also did everyone get there cheater slicks from early this summer? Or are some people still waiting for there return from the new owners now?
     
  27. BuickinaBucket
    Joined: Jun 8, 2004
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    BuickinaBucket
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    from Newark, DE

    Wow. This thread totally friggin derailed! (I step away for five minutes...:rolleyes: )

    zman - everytime Marty or NW gets mentioned you bring up this stuff about risers and blah blah. We get it... you hate him. Fine. But that wasn't the point of this thread. The point was to find out "officially" from Marty what the status of the bellhousings is, and when we can expect delivery. You two got so sidetracked squawking at each other that we never got answered. Not to mention the fact that it seems like you have had no transaction of your own with Marty, so you really can't say anything. If you friend is pissed, let him come on every time Marty posts and flame him.

    Back to the matter at hand...
    Will they be shipped by Billetproof or what?
    I'd be totally happy if I get it by then.

    "Inquiring minds want to know."
     
  28. Fat Cat
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    It was not ZMans fault that Marty did not answer. Marty is doing his best to avoid making commitments as it is next to impossible for him to keep any. So if he can avoid you for a week or so that is a week he can do what he sees fit to do, instead of what he is supposed to do.

    I mean the man can not put together a small base Rochester with a set of jets and that is the carb he is supposed to be "setup" to build. A bellhousing is much more complicated than that so give him time. I am sure he might be able to build "one" some day. It just isn't going to be for any of you soon.
     
  29. Avg.Joe
    Joined: Dec 5, 2004
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    Well I'll tell ya. Marty took good care of this HAMBER with a quality intake set up and mighty timely ta boot. Also through in a HAMBER free be. Keep chuggin fwd, you'll get the praise in the end.

    Joe
     
  30. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
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    zman
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    from Garner, NC

    Sorry I'm not going to let it rest... He's played his tupid little game here multiple times. He's ripped a friend of mine off for an engine. He threatened another for selling intake risers and then lying and saying that he had a patent pending, funny how th US Patent Office has no idea about it. Now he threatens me and says he sent me the Patent number. ********. The man either needs to get his **** together and quit lying or go the **** away. The only time he ever comes on here is to sell ****, same with the Yahoo Nailhead list and V8Buick.com. Yeah so there are a few who are ready to kiss his ***, pucker up baby.

    The facts on this post is that someone ordered a bellhousing and paid for it. He told them numerous times that it was shipped. Then he retreats to I'll send you an Auto adapter and refund some money. Well he has the adapter but not his money. Marty swears the check was returned, from the same address that the auto adapter was sent to. ********. There are others that have had problems as well. Hell I've gotten PM's from others that have gotten screwed around but don't want to come forward. It needs to stop.
     

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