I'm running a modified set of Pontiac sequential taillights (including Ron Francis' Brite bulbs) on my '31 A.But I don't know where they came from. I know the Trans-Am and maybe the Gan Prix had sequentials,but..., Can someone please school me about the years and models of pontiavs that ran sequentials so I can track down what I have?
Are you sure they're Pontiac? As far as I know Pontiac never had any cars with them. The only car I can think of offhand that had them was the Mercury Cougar.
THats what I was thinking too. I think the old cougars had a anolog box with a motor that spun around to light up the diffrent bulbs but now a days there are compact cercut bords that do the same thing and are used alot to convert newwer mustangs.
My dad's '68 Cougar has them, and a lot of 1960's era Thunderbirds did too, my '65 Bird had them. I've never seen or heard of them on a Pontiac before.
I think they put them on T-Birds for 1 yr. only. 1966 if I recall but I don't remember a Pontiac with them.
Get to NPD or a place like that. Gary Forgot to add, there are aftermarket systems now for use in OEM / cl***ic and new cars, too, that do the same thing.
The Cougar, T-bird lights were flashed by motor-driven shaft turning cams whihc fired the lights, I believe. Not a super reliable system.
Pontiac never used sequentioal as far as I know....Ford/Mercury used them in the T-bird, Cougar, and the Shelby
ive seen instructions on how to wire them up for any multi tail light applications so its possible that this is some type of modification. if i can dig out those instructions ill post them
Okay, here are two photos with the lights lit. The center section was two reverse lenses but has been cut down to a single lens. On the housing it says: "GM 16501973 BL-DMD 2 M" So I am pretty sure that they're GM-the guy I got them from said Pntiac. Hope this helps.
Is this it? 1985-1990 Firebird Trans-Am. http://cgi.ebay.ca/FIREBIRD-TAIL-LI...hash=item360030179743&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116 http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages...8431,77538434,77538436&formats=0,0,0&format=0
From the web: Sequential turn signals were factory fitted to Ford Thunderbirds built between 1965 and 1971, inclusive, to Mercury Cougars between 1967 and 1973, to Shelby Mustangs between 1968 and 1970, and to 1969 Chrysler Imperials. No other production cars were so fitted, as far as I know; this may have been due to worries about the system's complexity, and to automotive fashion. Two different systems were employed. The earlier, fitted to the 1965 through 1968 cars, was electro-mechanical, featuring an electric motor driving, through reduction gearing, a set of three slow-turning cams. These cams would actuate switches to turn on the lights in sequence so long as the turn signal switch was set. This system was complicated and prone to failure, and therefore it's rare to find one of these cars with an original and still fuctioning unit these days. The part is long out of stock at Ford and it is practically impossible to find a NOS unit. The odds of finding a working one second-hand are slim, too. Fortunately, someone has built an electronic replacement unit, if you don't care about total authenticity - if you do, you're on your own repairing an original one. Later cars used a transistorized 'black box' with no moving parts; this was much more reliable. You can find the sequential unit in the trunk on Cougars and Thunderbirds, affixed behind the back seat, in all model years that had them. I believe the 1969 Chrysler Imperial also used a transistorized unit. If you want to fit sequential turn signal lights to a car that didn't originally have them, you're in luck - provided you can find three lights per side that you can make sequential, at least! Quite a few cars are so equipped. Electronic sequential flasher units are available from a number of companies, with instructions on how to retrofit them to a variety of cars. The most commonly done are late-model Ford Mustangs, Chevrolet Impalas, Pontiac Firebirds and Chevrolet Camaros, but the kits are adaptable. Sequential turn signals are legal in all states of the USA (and I believe Canada); I do not have information as to their legality elsewhere. Sequential brake lights (where the same circuit is used for when the brake lights come on) are definitely illlegal in several states, including I believe New Jersey and Florida. It's possible that sequential emergency flashers are not legal in some jurisdictions either. In summary, sequential turn signals are a neat feature on a car, particularly one that had them from the manufacturer - if they work. If they don't, and keeping them working is much more complicated than for a regular system, they're very annoying indeed. The sequential lights in my 1967 Ford Thunderbird don't work right now, and I'm probably going to have to buy an electronic replacement unit (almost $200) and do a lot of electrical work before they do. This is pretty typical of even a well-maintained car from this era.
The lights look like '85 on up 3rd gen firebird/TA/formula. Fiero had a simular tail lamp for a wile. but none were Sequential.
Don't Matter What they are from ..... They are FUGLEY !!! Throw 'Em in the trash and give that Old Ford some Dignity.
Second owner 66 T BIRD 72,340 original miles i have changed a few bulbs but no other problems with them....ARKIE said , i got some RARE **** IN MY TRUNK..HOW BOUT THAT..
Everyone's en***led to their own opinions and although I was only looking for parts identification not what you thought of the installation, posting pictures opens me up for comments. However,-2nd day edit-I'd guess I'd say what's the point of ****ping on someone's car? Do you expect them to suddenly see the light as you interpret it? Just trying to be helpful? Friendly, An ***? Boost your post count? In person, most of us would follow the Golden Rule and treat folks like we'd want to be treated. Most would probably not walk up to someone and say they think you car looks like ****. But the Internet and distance make it very easy to be impersonal. In the end, I got the information I needed, along with some comments I didn't. I apologize for the political rant and fortunately won't likely ever have the opportunity to subject those of you who hate the car to have to view it. Thanks to all the folks who helped with the identification.
I repair them. I know for sure cougars and t-birds had them. I don't know about the others, never repaired a set from anything else. I am in the middle of a 67 t-bird. I could take some pics and post if need be.
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