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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Sporty45, Nov 23, 2023.

  1. downlojoe33
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    Gotta get to HF……..
     
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  2. gimpyshotrods
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    Flake would need to be about 20% larger than the size of the flake. That would be quite large, and hard to control.

    I have just pushed big flake from a diner-style ketchup bottle, onto tie-coat clear, and then worked up from there.

    Veling and upholstery glue does not necessarily need a much bigger tip. The stringy effect is due to the thickness and adhesive nature of the product.

    I use a cheap siphon glue from Amazon. I will check the tip size. I never really looked.

    The spray looks like veiling, too.
     
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  3. SS327
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    Has anyone ever tried the green siphon HF gun? It has a 1.8 tip size. Or one of the other more expensive versions?
     
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  4. nrgwizard
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    Hey, rsr;
    That I know, but I also have an old sears gun, used for primer, that could be modded. Just don't know to what specs.

    Gimpy;
    "I have just pushed big flake from a diner-style ketchup bottle, onto tie-coat clear, and then worked up from there."
    Would you please explain? Never heard nor seen this one> ???
    Thanks.
    Marcus...
     
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  5. gimpyshotrods
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    Dry flake goes in the ketchup bottle.

    Put down your base. Spray tie coat clear over it. While it is wet, apply to taste, the dry flake across the panel.

    Once the tie coat is dry, blow off the excess flake. Gently drag a filler spreader across the flake layer, to break off any that stick out.

    Clear coat the hell out of it. After a few coats, sand off any flake tips that still show as roughness, and get everything smooth. Clear a bit more.

    You can also use a dry flake gun, for more control.
     
  6. guthriesmith
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    I guess I ended up with one of these since I happened to read this thread right before my son called from HF wanting to know if I needed anything…. I have a nice gun (or at least it was nice 30 years ago when it retailed for about 100x what this gun cost). I figure it is worth trying on something for the price. :D
     
  7. RodStRace
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    Had to go into town, so I picked up 2 of 'em along with one of the cheap N95 masks, since they are back in stock. Now I just need a compressor, clean area, ...
     
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  8. nrgwizard
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    Hey, Gimpy;
    Thanks. I'd think the ketchup squirt bottle nozzle would give streaks,(and a lot of flake ends on the floor?), but I'll take your word for it. It's worth trying when I get that far, at a min for a couple test panels. Always up for learning something new.

    rsr; clean area, well now, that's a problem... :D .
    Marcus...
     
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  9. RodStRace
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    nrg, been lookin' in my garage? :D
    The area is always dusty, but now the wind is worse and the leaves are all over.
    gar.jpg
    PS the circle was for a HAMBer who was looking for /6 info so he understood why I didn't have studio quality photos of the kickdown.
     
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  10. gimpyshotrods
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    Squirt up. Let gravity take over.
     
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  11. SS327
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    I’ve never heard of a dry flake gun. Who makes one? Where to get it? How expensive?
     
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  12. gimpyshotrods
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    For perspective, the Roth HVLP flake gun has a 3.0mm tip.

    Ream away.
     
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  14. SS327
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    Thanks Gimpy. Have you used one of HF’s green siphon guns? It has a 1.8 tip and has a real quart cup.
     
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  15. gimpyshotrods
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    Nope. I use 3M PPS cups on my purple guns.
     
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  16. AccurateMike
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  17. Sharpone
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    When I grow up I want to spray flake
     
  18. RodStRace
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  19. mr.chevrolet
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    just bought 3 purple guns
     
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  20. gimpyshotrods
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    I just point 45º forward from vertical, and squeeze and sweep.
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    Cheaper than anything.

    In the old days, I just tossed it out of my gloved hand.
     
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  21. mad mikey
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    What is the whole procedure for using the dry flake gun?
     
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  22. gimpyshotrods
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    Fill, close, point, shoot, sweep.

    Flake would need to go over a wet tie-coat or base coat to get it to stick.

    Once that coat has dried, you blow off the excess, and then knock down the really sticky-uppy flakes, and then apply the desired coats (candy/clear/etc.) on top, taking time after each few coats to sand down.

    The sanding down and re-coating process makes or breaks a flake job. It is why some jobs look like gl***, and others a rash.

    My elders used their hand to sweep the flake area to break the points off of the flakes before the first coat on top.

    My hands are a bit oily, and not frequently clean, so I use a filler spreader. My feeling is that this gets everything smoother sooner, without changing the look.
     

  23. OMG Mike!

    I almost pissed my pants laughing so hard when I saw this picture! :D

    Who would ever have thunk to use a sandblast gun to shoot flake at a car! LMAO!!!

    Seriously though....If you drill out the purple gun, I guess you could shoot high build primer, but honestly I am not going to bother. I bought one a few years ago, tried it & promptly threw it in the garbage! Not that I am too arrogant or too good to use a cheap gun, but ....it has to work & for me. The Purple gun did NOT make any kind of pattern I was comfortable with. Actually if you want to buy a cheap gun with a GREAT pattern that will lay down a really nice paint job....Buy a Black Widow from Harbor Freight! It will do everything a hobbyist will ever need to do!

    By the way, high build primers these days need a 2.5 tip to lay down a proper coat. However, if you use a quality high build primer like Tamco or Revolt, they sand like ****er & you do not have to be a professional painter to get the body straight, because no matter how bad it looks, it will sand smooth!. You can get away with a 1.8 if you are careful.

    God Bless
    Bill
    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/
     
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  24. AccurateMike
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    IDK, put one on a regulator and play with it. Would have been more fun when they were like $8. I was surprised at the new price. I'm not a flake kind of guy. I will never know. Mike
     
  25. Shitbox
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  26. nrgwizard
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    Hmmm, lots of learning here. :D .
    RSR: phooey, yours isn't all that bad, I can see floor, that can be navigated on.
    Marcus...
     
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  27. 57JoeFoMoPar
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    I always keep a few of these around too, and I was pleasantly surprised when I went to HF yesterday and saw them as cheap as they are. Bought 2 more. Most recently I used one to spray stain on a bunch of lawn furniture, which worked incredibly well. Then I just threw the gun out afterwards.
     
  28. TwistedMetal
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  29. 1971BB427
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    I bought a more expensive HF spray gun for the final exterior paint on my '39 Chev coupe. Not sure of the Model now, but it was just under $100 then, and when I looked up reviews outside of HF reviews it got high praise.
    I am not a professional, and my coupe was the first full paint job I've ever done. I didn't expect much with my skills and a HF gun, but the gun was super easy to use, and laid down a very good paint job, all things considered!
    Since it was expensive (relative to cheaper HF guns) I cleaned it thoroughly and made sure it would be ready for future use.

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  30. Sharpone
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    Very nice
     
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