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Technical Putting breathers in a 354 Hemi

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by spillaneswillys, Jan 29, 2022.

  1. I need to install breathers in my 354 Hemi. When I acquired the engine it had no breathers and the oil filler tube is blocked off. Can I use the typical push in breathers and if so where can I put them A nice set of Spectre push in type came with the project but it seems these kind are not used on the old Hemis. Thanks Joe
     
  2. Bandit Billy
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    No they are not! Sell those to the chevy boys and install something like these from Hot Heads. I put one in each cover but I kinda wish I had done 2 in each cover. I also had to add an oil filler in the right cover. I welded in nuts inside that one to accept the Donovan filler neck, also from Hot Heads
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  3. Stan Back
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    I don't know why you'd need four. We only had two on our Bonneville engine that turned 7500+. The pictured one has been on my 354" Chrysler for over a dozen years and don't think I need another.

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  4. Bandit Billy
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    I don't think it needs four, someone posted one the other day with 4 and I thought it looked cool. :cool:
     
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  5. MRW1994
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    I ran four of the Moon breathers just because I liked the way it looked. At first I had it set up where all four were open but once I got my adjustable PCV valve I decided to block the back one on each valve cover because I was afraid it would never pull a vacuum on the crankcase with so many openings. 331Hemi1.jpg
    Like Bandit Billy I put the oil filler on the valve cover but used a swivel water neck.
     
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  6. hotrodA
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    FWIW, Hot Heads also makes a pair where one has a PCV valve and the other furnishes air to the crankcase. Different base angles to fit your rocker covers.

    I agree with BB, the engine looks more balanced with four, even with two blocked.
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  7. hemihotrod66
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    I did 4 on mine... Found these brand new Stellings and Hampshere at a swap meet...
     

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  8. willys36
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    I did 2 on mine, both in the front of the covers. One on passenger side is fixed. One on driver's side has the top come off and I pull the foam filter so I can fill oil. I also asdded a 1/2" electrical conduit coupling into the back of the valley cover with hose fitting to add a PCV valve.
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  9. My 354 has a pcv in the road draft hole and a vented cap on the oil fill tube in the valley pan. Will that be enough ventilation for a street driven motor?
     
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  10. willys36
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    Yes but you also need a fresh air inlet somewhere in the system. Vented oil filler cap or breather somewhere.
     
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  11. Thanks i do have a vented oil fill cap
     
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  12. Bandit Billy
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    It is funny to note, when I said I had seen a HEMI with four breathers the other the day...it was yours! LOL! Sweet swept side BTW.
     
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  14. alfin32
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    Ran 4 small ones because I liked the look. F2CDB6DA-FCA2-4DC7-A123-50643C57EFE7.jpeg FCF04BA6-CF87-4274-BBB5-96CB8C4F7812.jpeg
     
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  15. Bandit Billy
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    ^^^^^Beautiful @alfin32 ! One of the nicest looking Hemis, or any engine of any kind, I have seen!
     
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  16. 4tford
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    I welded in a filler tube with breather (front) and a pcv valve to the (rear) of the valley cover.

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  17. gimpyshotrods
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    Unless this is a race engine that will get frequent tear-downs, you really should have more than just breathers.

    You should have a functioning PCV system. The benefits are numerous.
     
  18. I have a complete Spectre breather system with the PVC setup. Is it not workable to use this system on a Hemi, that is the push in type?
     
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  19. gimpyshotrods
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    Please do not diminish the dignified grandeur of a legendary Hemi by appending it with cheap parts-store junk.

    You wouldn't put a plastic wrist band on a Rolex, would you?
     
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  20. 6sally6
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    If I've EVER seen an engine that screams for 'another' 4 barrel carb...this one does!!
    Sweet look'in engine set-up....I like it(except for the single carb.!)
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  21. willys36
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    That's a 3bbl!!
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  22. driprail
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    Sorry to revive an old thread, but I just bought this kit from HH, but it didn't come with the little instruction leaflet. Hard to make out from the picture, but looks like it says "Drill 18 9/32" holes". Can anyone confirm?

    I can't make out any of the text below that though. Thanks!
     
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  23. gimpyshotrods
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    I have a set somewhere on a shelf. I will dig it out as soon as I can.
     
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  24. gimpyshotrods
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    Yeah, I found my set, but they also do not have any instructions!

    My advice is to trace the gasket on a piece of paper, and lay out that same pattern of holes.

    It does say 9/32", but there are 20-holes there. Two rows of nine, with a single at each end, between the rows.
     
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  25. driprail
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    thanks for checking. tracing was going to be my next step!
     
  26. George
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    As was said, yes. Should be noted that from the factory there was a rubber sheet hanging from the intake across the lifter valley to force air flow from going directly to the back.
     
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