I would like to run a bee hive style oil filter on my sedan but they seem hard to find. I was looking at the MFS video and the pics of Coles blue bike. Could a filter like the one he used (looks like a beehive but have been told by a friend that someone makes something similar for a bikes). Any ideas or does anyone have an old beehive they want to sell...
I am running a beehive reproduction on the 292 Inliner in my 52 Convert. Had to be modified to run with a full pressure oil system though. B B
I think Moon has what you are looking for... http://69.20.89.230/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1120
BobK, I would be interested in hearing what you did to modify the beehive for higher pressure. I didn't use one on my flatty because I had always heard they wouldn't take the higher pressure. TIA Fourdy
Cole fabbed the one on his blue bike so as far as I know that one is a one off.. I love the look of those beehive filters. Are they designed for low pressure/splasher engines? I'm running a stock 216 in my Chevy and would dig having one of those things!
I am interested in the pressure issue also since I plan to use it with my sbc. Doesn't surprise me that Coles was a one off but I have seen others on motorcycles
how bout the Flatattack: or the Obrien Truckers Hildebrant repop: Both of these use a spin on filter inside, no mess, no fuss. Pete
Regarding the modifications to my Beehive. Russ Meeks did mine for me but basicllly this is what he did. Redrilled both the inlet and outlet to 1/2". The tube that feeds the oil in from the bottom had about 3 or 4 1/16" holes in it. He drilled a bunch more. Can't tell ya how many as the car is at the trim shop now. It should be back home next week and I'll count the holes, I think they are now 1/8" now also. He said that there is some mathematical formula that must be used that relates to the diameter of the inlet and the number of holes. He uses the same system on his B'ville car. I talked to him at the salt and made arrangements to ship it to him for modification. B B
Thanks BobK. Hope you will let us in on the "REST OF THE STORY" when you get your car back from the shop. Fourdy
Here's a Hildebrandt to give you the idea of the size. This one's not hooked up yet. One Gozinta and 1 Gozouta, how hard could it be?
I think Bob K is pointing the right way for the actual Beehive. The issue isn't pressure--early Ford filters, which this is in a fancy case, can take plenty of pressure but do not flow nearly enough to be used as a full-flow. The case would need mods to pass enough oil, including drilling out the main ports to at least 1/4" pipe, and it is likely a different element would be needed. The design is made to be restrictive, as it runs as an oil bypass, effectively a leak in the pressure system. The filter is restrictive because it is a finer filter than a full flow unit. Also remember that stock full flow systems have a bypass valve either in the engine or in the filter itself to save the engine if the filter clogs, and even with a clean and rather coarse element, many engines routinely bypass oil at times normally.
These guys have an interesting rap on the whole "Full Flow vs. Bypass" discussion I've got one of their 5o's-60's vintage filters for my Plymouth. Frantz Filters Rap
My understanding is that many really expensive engines like big industrial diesels use both types of filters, and I am going to be trying this on a flathead. I just bought, mostly as a curiosity, a 1960's vintage finned aluminum cased toilet paper filter--F something, Filko or such. If I keep reading the brochure, maybe I'll be sold on using it...
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