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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Saoutlaws_Gotti, May 8, 2007.

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  1. Saoutlaws_Gotti
    Joined: Jan 10, 2007
    Posts: 750

    Saoutlaws_Gotti
    Member

    Ok if you missed it myself and another member had a go at it on the message board here earlier today

    Reason:
    i sold this guy some stuff here in the Classified section, after the money was sent to me i used it to purchase another item thinking i could come up with the shipping money a couple of days later then i had a very bad stent of BAD luck

    this has gone on for awhile now
    now the other party in question has been slandering my name across the board, private messaging me cussing me out and calling me names

    i told the other party that if he could wait until the 11th of may i would have no problem sending him his items
    simply fact is i hardly have enough money right now to pay attention much less ship his items
    during this time he has filed a claim with PAYPAL
    now i keep my paypal account at a minimium which has made it difficult for him to get his money back
    today before we got into this heated disscussion here on the board he private messaged me again asking me to give the items to a fellow HAMBer in my area who will in return take care of gettin them to him

    which i simply replied with, if you want me to do that then drop the claim with paypal. i in return got a private message back which contained alot of cussing and name calling and then he toke it one step further and tried slandering my name across the board but someone very close to me put an end to all that within a few minutes by reporting it and having it closed down

    then our fearless leader Ryan pm's me and i am presuming other party involved, and tells us the board is not the place to bash each other and offered his assistanence

    i asked Ryan to please suggest a solution and he DID NOT, he flat out tells me to resolve it in X amount of days or i get added to bad sellers list

    OK
    so i messed up i didnt get the items out like promised but i am offering a solution
    buyer drops paypal claim and ill send items
    i figure this is fair because if he does not drop the claim and i ship items then i am out the items and next time i use paypal i will be out the money
    Correct Or Incorrect

    Ok Next Point
    i know alot of you on this board are like i am, if someone came up to me in the streets and called me names and cussed me out i'd, at the least, knock em on their ass and like i said at the least

    i do not feel it is ok to name call/cuss/slander when a person is at least offering solutions
    Correct or Incorrect

    Hell i even gave the guy my phone number during all this episode earlier today (and he still hasnt called) for the sack of either a pointless name calling/cussing session or coming to a sensible solution

    Last Words
    i have no problem sending this guy his items on the day i told him i would but only if the paypal claim is dropped (because i am not going to be out my items and my money)

    sorry about the long rant but does anybody have any suggestions here
     
  2. So you had the money in hand but went and bought other parts before you sent his stuff out. Bad luck or not, you need to haul your butt down to the pawn shop and hawk some stuff for dough to cover the shipping. Borrow the money or something. Sounds kind of like you walked right into an ass whupin to me. Above all else here stay true to your word. If you ain't got the money for a truly legit reason the other member would probably understand, but spending the money on other parts is marginal.
     
  3. s.r.i.
    Joined: Aug 6, 2005
    Posts: 1,078

    s.r.i.
    Member
    from Hell

    If he drops the paypal claim, what is his guarentee that you will send it? At least if he has the claim in he has "something".

    Sounds kind of like you walked right into an ass whupin to me. <--- Ignore that, everyone is a badass on a keyboard.

    Make sure Paypal has NONE of your money, drain the account. Then send out the parts asap, even if the guy screams and hollers all the way till then. Then once sent, show Paypal the proof and they will typically reverse any "rulings". Even though Paypal is the biggest theif out there.

    Also, Ryan does the best he can here. If you contact Ryan and say "it will go out on the 11th" (what 4 more days?) and send Ryan PROOF of it shipped, I doubt Ryan will waste his time on it. It's not Ryans job to offer advice, he is just trying to keep peace.
     
  4. Saoutlaws_Gotti
    Joined: Jan 10, 2007
    Posts: 750

    Saoutlaws_Gotti
    Member


    Ignored
     
  5. wheelkid
    Joined: May 25, 2006
    Posts: 1,263

    wheelkid
    Alliance Vendor
    from Fresno, CA

    sounds like you should be on the bad sellers list right now
     
  6. Gator
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
    Posts: 4,016

    Gator
    Member

    I doubt you're gonna get much sympathy on this one - you got his money, send him his stuff.
     
  7. tomslik
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 2,161

    tomslik
    Member

    by now i think i'd send the shit and HOPE he pays.....
    if your word isn't any good, you ain't worth shit in my book...
     
  8. Mule Farmer
    Joined: Jun 1, 2005
    Posts: 1,508

    Mule Farmer
    Member
    from Holland MI

    Ya me and 3 other guys have had problems getting are parts from him.

    Yes I did lose my temper, But its been 7 weeks now since I payed him.

    7 weeks is way more time than you should have gotten.

    Ive seen all your posts about your model A tudor and your 53 chevy youve been working on since I payed you. Thats where my money whent.

    I have a build going also and youve held it up 7 weeks now.

    4 deals and 4 differnt buyers. All 4 had to talk to Rashy to get you to send the parts. 2 deals took more than a month for you to ship and 2 deals you havent shipped yet. Mine after 7 weeks.

    All I get is excuses from you.

    Bad seller You decide.

    Slander You decide.

    Do I have the right to be pissed of after 7 weeks I think so.

    Am I the bad guy here I dont think so.


    Your going to have to man up. None of this would have happened if you had sent the carbs out within the first month. And thats about 2 weeks longer than it should have taken in my book.

    You have nobody to blame but yourself. This is all your mess.
     
  9. sota
    Joined: Oct 14, 2006
    Posts: 717

    sota
    Member

    Bad move to say the least...send the guy his parts which he pay for he should of not had to wait for you to get more money to replace the money he sent.Your lucky he hasn't file charges on you for fraud!
     
  10. jusjunk
    Joined: Dec 3, 2004
    Posts: 3,138

    jusjunk
    BANNED
    from Michigan

    I gotta follow along with the other guys.. The buyer didnt lend you any money so you could go buy other shit he bought stuff and he should have had his stuff by now.. I think you fucked yourself here and your not gonna be able to cover your ass now .. Its too late..
    Dave
     
  11. 31whitey
    Joined: Jan 2, 2007
    Posts: 2,214

    31whitey
    Member

    if your having money issues in life you dont buy your self parts...you pay bills ,buy food, and pay rent...your heads not right bro...you used his cash for your own items...send the guys his carbs already...jeez
     
  12. Bphotrod
    Joined: Sep 19, 2006
    Posts: 271

    Bphotrod
    Member
    from da U.P.

    Do the right thing and send him his stuff, you already said its your fault. Man up and take responsibility for your lack of judgement.
     
  13. Sorry Gotti, no sympathy from me.
     
  14. randydupree
    Joined: May 19, 2005
    Posts: 667

    randydupree
    Member
    from archer fl

    send him the parts.
    you fucked up and now you want the members of this board to "feel" for you.NOT.
    Randy
     
  15. leadsled01
    Joined: Nov 19, 2004
    Posts: 1,123

    leadsled01
    Member

    I'm the other guy that has not recieved the items I paid for, as of yet. saoutlaw gotti did say he will ship my item after the middle of the month (severance check). Although he says that he lost one of my items and will refund my money on the middle of the month. The thing that made this whole deal really piss me off was, Your lack of replying to my PM,s. I believe I sent you several pm,s and did not get any replies from you untill Rashy got involved. Sucks I had to get the moderators involved over a simply transaction, but what other recourse did I have?
     
  16. A man is only as good as his word, no more no less. you don't buy parts untill your bills are settled, economics 101!
     
  17. Yup.


     
  18. bigolds
    Joined: Oct 27, 2006
    Posts: 883

    bigolds
    Member

    It ain't slander if it's true...... It ain't harrasment if you are trying to get your shit!!!!!! Gotti, you fucked up and Mule has every right to be pissed. You only made things worse by posting updates on your shit....talk about rubbing salt in the wound you opened up. Make this right right now and apologize toMule no matter what happens!!!!!
     
  19. Lobucrod
    Joined: Mar 22, 2006
    Posts: 4,122

    Lobucrod
    Alliance Vendor
    from Texas

    "i asked Ryan to please suggest a solution and he DID NOT, he flat out tells me to resolve it in X amount of days or i get added to bad sellers list"

    Sounds like a solution to me
     
  20. publicenemy1925
    Joined: Feb 4, 2007
    Posts: 3,187

    publicenemy1925
    Member
    from OKC, OK

    Man up and send him the stuff. Then if he is half the man he says he is he needs to drop the pay pal claim after receiving.
     
  21. Aaron51chevy
    Joined: Jan 9, 2005
    Posts: 1,986

    Aaron51chevy
    Member

    I agree send the stuff out, frankly that wasnt' your money to spend, it was sent as payment for shipping. Good intentions on sending out stuff and having bad things happen are one thing, 7 weeks is a default, if you waited on ANY bill 7 weeks you'd be getting calls from collections, do the right thing and send the man his stuff. I'd be hot as hell waiting 7 weeks for a part that is holding up a project....
     
  22. Pete1930
    Joined: May 5, 2006
    Posts: 321

    Pete1930
    Member
    from Boston

    I had to go back and read it a few times... 7 weeks????

    7 weeks?????

    You're kidding, right?

    I don't care why. Call it like I see it -- bad seller.

    Pete
     
  23. luckydevil
    Joined: Jun 20, 2005
    Posts: 615

    luckydevil
    Member

    You gotta be kidding me. How much can it possibly cost to ship out a couple of carbs? $10? Gotti you have no excuse. You should have shipped that stuff as soon as you got the money. If the buyer drops the Paypal claim before he gets the parts than he will have no claim to the parts OR his money. If he drops that claim than he's a bigger ass hat than you. It looks to me like you should already be on the bad sellers list. You definitly made my bad sellers list.
    Why would you advertise your bad selling practices on the main board of the HAMB? The only way you can save face on this deal is to apoligize, send the guy his parts & refund his money.
     
  24. So, get up off your ass TODAY and get the man's stuff boxed and ready to ship. Take it to UPS and send it freight collect (COD) Reimburse the shipping charge ASAP. I gotta believe if you were on the up and up, you'd have done this 7 weeks ago, but instead you pulled the pin and dropped it in your pants...
     
  25. enjenjo
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 2,758

    enjenjo
    Member
    from swanton oh

    So don't eat today, that will give you shipping money.
     
  26. wedgeii1
    Joined: Apr 24, 2006
    Posts: 552

    wedgeii1
    Member
    from california

    I cant believe all the guy did was "cuss" at you over the internet! If it was me, I'd be at yer door with a bat! If he drops the Paypal claim I'll be pissed. People need to know about a-holes that do shit like this!
     
  27. Redneck Smooth
    Joined: Apr 19, 2004
    Posts: 1,344

    Redneck Smooth
    Member
    from Cincinnati

    I know I wont buy anything from you...
     
  28. luckydevil
    Joined: Jun 20, 2005
    Posts: 615

    luckydevil
    Member

    I hope Ryan dosen't close this thread like he did the first one. People on this board need to know about sellers like this.
     
  29. hotrodladycrusr
    Joined: Sep 20, 2002
    Posts: 20,765

    hotrodladycrusr
    Member

    I personally know MuleFarmer and he WILL drop the PayPal claim once he receives all the parts. He is a stand up guy, I'll vouch for him. Send the dude his parts, and a apology for being a selfish ass.
     
  30. 50flathead
    Joined: Mar 8, 2005
    Posts: 1,166

    50flathead
    Member
    from Iowa, USA

    That's pretty much the consensus. Probably the best reason for having threads like these is to emphasize our standards on the HAMB to the entire community. I wouldn’t send you any money either.
     
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