quick change rear? Kilroy? anybody?

I have been considering using a quick change in the modified, it could solve several problems for me.

Kilroy suggested sending my banjo center to Wilson Welding for conversion..

I have seen this type of work done in magazines but is there anyone here that has first hand experience with a converted rear?

and who is the best for the buck?

is there some online info?

thanks, Paul

 

They don't say anything about it that I could find at http://www.wilsonweldingandmachine.com/

Dave
http://www.roadsters.com/

 

it does say;

Coming Soon!!
Kinmont Disc Brakes..

I'll give them a call tomorrow,

there must be other shops too,,

'wonder if there's anybody in the Northwest that does that kind of work?

Paul

 

You might want to have a look at what the Hot Rod Works offers, at http://www.hotrodworks.com/QuickChange.htm

In the race car community, the most commonly-used manufacturers of quick-changes include:

Speedway Engineering
http://www.1speedway.com/

Winters Performance Products, Inc.
http://www.wintersperformance.com/

Hope this helps.

Dave
http://www.roadsters.com/

 

I met a couple of guys at Bonneville two years ago who were racing a '29 with a sbc running on seven cylinders. One of them used to post here once in a while. I stopped at there shop near Boise on my way home and they were building customer cars and manufacturing their own final drives for early Ford rear ends. Try www.hotrodworks.com

 

thanks Dave,

that does help.

the Hot Rod Works QC center looks good and the price is not totaly unreasonable but,

at roughly $2,500.00 it's at least twice what I have into the car already, and was hoping for something a little less spendy.

Paul

 

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I have been considering using a quick change in the modified. It could solve several problems for me.

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Please explain which problems you want solutions for.

Dave
http://www.roadsters.com/

 

first would be the location of the QC pinion being lower in the case than the stock banjo pinion would mean I could lower the engine and transmission in the frame and still keep the "old school" look of the early rearend.

if I could have my center section converted it would mean I could still use the rest of my setup, axles, housings, brakes, wishbone, spring etc. and not have to alter my rear suspension and save a buck or two..

and of course it would mean the ease in trying various gear ratios.

and I can't deny that right up near the top of the list is the way cool factor too..

..I have seen somewhere a source for the pieces to adapt the stock Ford banjo center to a quick change..

if I could find these pieces I could probably have someone local alter my case..

Paul

 

Rotating the existing rear end a degree or two (clockwise as viewed from the right side) would allow you to lower the engine and transmission like you want to.

Finding a good, used Halibrand magnesium "Culver City" (early; original) V-8 quick-change center section would potentially cost you as little as $400 if you were lucky. Ask as many of the old sprint car and midget racers as you can. While you're asking, see if anyone knows of an old Columbia two-speed rear end that you could take a look at, so you can see if that's something that might work for you.

As a bare minimum, for strength and safety, I would suggest looking at upgrading the early Ford rear axles. Hot Rod Works shows their conversion at http://www.hotrodworks.com/Modernaxles.htm

Dave
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This may not be what you wanted to hear, but some of the comments in this thread point out some of the reasons why the Ford nine-inch rear end solves so many problems for so many of us.

No, they don't look as neat as an early Halibrand quick-change. But even with OEM 29-spline axles, they are as strong as you could ever ask for.

And since the Ford nine-inch was introduced in 1957, they are early enough to be period correct for most hot rods.

Dave
http://www.roadsters.com/

 

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click here for more info.

Dick has been around a long time. He's not cheap but he must be fair. I've never heard any complaints.

 

Quoting Baskerville: "Ivo’s 119-mph bucket was unbeaten in class, and it trophied at car shows as well. Rickman took this photo at the Santa Ana drags in 1957."

Tommy Ivo
http://www.tommyivo.com/

 

thanks guys,

Tommy the $1,400.00 for the plain center is more like it,

it looks better and is probably not much more expensive than the modified stock center I was thinking of,

and as I mentioned elsewhere I do have a first series 9", a '58 I think, but I'm fairly commited to using the banjo style rear with the modified wishbone setup and was kinda saving the old 9" for the Stude..

but you got me thinkin'.. again..

Paul

 

I think it's better than buying something used from a guy in a flea market that you'll never see again.

 

I've delt withe Dick in the past and there very up front and great to deal with.Bought severail things trough him.
I considered going with the Winters available thru Dick Spadaro.The only drawback is it's NOT available to bolt to a torque tube.If it wasn't for that ,I'd have one.
I guess I'll have to find a old Halibrand.

 

Bob? Wilson quoted me roughly $800 to convert my center section to his Speed Demon QC, including a opn-drive conversion. I've seen his work and talked to him and can say he's a great guy to deal with, and his work looks exellent. He can also convert your rear to use 9" axles too.

Seems like a good bet to me and the price seems like a steal. I'm not saying that he still charges the same for the conversion though. But I doubt he's anywhere near what a Halli center would cost or the HRW QC?

 

http://www.dutchmanms.com/2_qcnav.html

Fred

 

Ben Zimmerman in Post Falls, ID bought the Atkinson quick change business. These were fabricated qc's from the stock banjo.

 

I have a question about a QC with banjo rearends – are there any lock–up options with any of these conversions? Or are you still going to smoke one wheel only?

 

If you go with a quick-change, you'll have to put an A rear spring back in your car. The '40 won't clear the rear of the housing.

Good thing you only tack welded everything together.


alchemy

 

I am tired of going sideways, progress should be linear not lateral..

I'm using a combination of minor adjustments to make the setup I have work.

maybe the next one will get a QC, but this one just needs to come together..now.

Paul