rack & pinion question

Can anyone tell me what kind of cars use, or used, rear steer(behind the front axel) rack and pinions. I need one for my 51 studebaker. THANKS...........DON

 

This is going to be fun. I hope for your sake that you have thick skin.

 

a lot of Mid 90s through 01, 02, etc, GM. I mounted one from a 02 Satrun in my '29 chevy daily driver.

 

The kits that are sold for the tri-five chevys use a 80's Chevy Citation rack.
I have one installed in my 57 210. Works great.......

 

'70s Dodge Cricket.

 

why?

because it isn't "traditional"? nobody is gonna see rack n pinion steering under a 51 stude.

i'm using a SAAB rack on my 51 chevy. works well, mounts easy. it was the right length for my chevy, and the tie rod ends are the same taper as my chevy steering arms, which are probably the same taper as the stude, and probably similar in width. i'd suggest a search for it here and you'll find some more info on it.

 

Dodge Omni

 

intrepids,audis,2wd tacomas......

 

doing the same thing with a 49 sedan, an using an Audi Quattro rack, centre steer type. the mounts aren't pretty, but it works just fine and you can't really see it unless you go loking for it.

 

Thanks for the inputs folks, I've been building hot rods since the late 50's, I'ts just my first venture into rack and pinion. I have a "56" hawk with a 392 hemi and left the steering alone, so I'm going "rack& pinion on this one to see how it goes, Maybe I'll change the 56 to R&C after the "51" is done. I'm ranting , so long for now,....STUDEAHALIC

 

Something you will need to consider beyond rear-steer/front steer is the length of the pivoted part of the rack. To minimize bump-steer in your car, that part must roughly approximate the same arc as the average of the upper and lower a-arms. I'm going thru that with my 41' Stude that has a transverse leaf (planar) front suspension. I think lots of racks can be made to fit, but I'd maybe ask the same question on the Studebaker Drivers group technical forum, but add that you want chapter and verse for your particular front suspension from someone who has done it, and found no bump-steer in actually driving it. You didn't say whether it was a Champion or Land Cruiser or.... since I believe the tracks may be different. That suspension was used pretty much the same all the way thru 64' (changed after 50').

 

Of couse, get the angles/lengths coordinated to minimize bump steer. The same applies with any system, not just r&p, and shouldn't be a reason not to use it. Front or Rear? Depends on where it will fit in the best, the spindle can't tell whence the pressure is coming from.

If I were to use r&p on my Nash, won't because the box and all is excellent, but rearsteer would fit right in there.

 

VW rabbits and Jettas are all rear steer.

 

used a rear steer chrysler K-car in my 39 dodge