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rare speed equip. guys, info please.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by **DONOTDELETE**, May 17, 2004.

  1. Pictures are fuzzy but here's what I know. Sharp intake, 97's, and Sharp Products carb tops..... what I dont know is anything about the cool little mixture screws and wire drive.


    Anyone have info?
    thanks.

    I dont get it, my camera never takes **** shots like this.

     

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  2. heres another ****py shot
     

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  3. what the hell, one more
     

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  4. jerry
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    looks like a race type setup for quick changes on the adjustable jets.

    but what do i know!


    jerry
     
  5. tommy
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    adjustable jets. turn the knobs to adjust them.
     
  6. well i kinda figured out what they do but when were they sold and by who?
    Better yet, has anyone seen them before?
     
  7. Crestliner
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    I think maybe vintage speed still has them. Know I've seen them some where.
     
  8. tommy
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    The SP on the carb tops stands for "Speed products"
     
  9. mr.midnite
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    Gooch,

    give Pat at Wilcap a call, he has quite a bit of knowledge and archived material on Sharp as he owns it, 805 343-5000
     
  10. Tommy I think you're right. I saw them repopped somewhere. These aint repop.

    thanks midnite.
     
  11. tommy
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    [​IMG]
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    I have the same intake that came out of a barn in Ga. It was on a wall along with these early Sharp heads. These have the block lettering instead of the script logo. The intake has script lettering. We know the intakes can't be older than 48. [​IMG] I've never been able to find out when they made the change over on the lettering.

    That's a neat piece you got there. Steevie Wonder can tell it's not a repop. Those tops are the only ones I've seen with the SP cast into them. I think most of the ones you see are repops. I believe they were repoping them in the 70's, maybe earlier, long before the retro craze.

    I'm only guessing but the jets must not have worked too well, they didn't sell very many. My buddy had to **** can his modern day adjustable jets. They kept leaking. They are trick looking. That's for sure.
     
  12. Andy
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    I think the adjuster thingies are for setting the idle mixture screws. Very neat!
     
  13. Sixcarb
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    from North NJ

    I agree Andy they are not jet adjustments....they go straight into the base of the carb where the mixture screws sit.


    "muthaheads"
     
  14. Kevin Lee
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    I believe "SP" stands for SCOT PRODUCTS. School me if I'm wrong. Check out Speedy Bill's catalog for repops.... Oh **** Gooch, what if those ARE repops? You're ****ed.
     
  15. Smokin Joe
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  16. [ QUOTE ]
    I believe "SP" stands for SCOT PRODUCTS. School me if I'm wrong. Check out Speedy Bill's catalog for repops.... Oh **** Gooch, what if those ARE repops? You're ****ed.

    [/ QUOTE ]


    nope, I would have them destroyed and run this instead. Early Evans four with 97's [​IMG]
     

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  17. Bruce Lancaster
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    The idle screw extenders were a common catalog item in the fifties--check out an old JC Whitney book. I don't believe I ever saw a name advertised--probably generic items ground out by some anonymous screw machine place. They crossed over into the world of non-speed oriented auto gadgets for tinkerers. Probably actually a good idea for those with crowded manifolds.
     
  18. TV
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    Guys, those are not re-pops their the real thing. I have a set of four that I got from a guy in New York, I was so stoked when I got them, I almost sh#t my pants. Cool find,--TV [​IMG]
     
  19. SimonSez
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  20. Adjustable main jets go thru the bottom of the bowl. These idle things are not really race related.
     
  21. Wilcap
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    Pat from Wilcap here. Nobody asked but I'll offer it up anyway; According to my conversations with Al Sharp, the "SP" carb top was his design. The "SP" stands for Sharp and Pilkington. Gordie Pilkington was Al's partner in his pattern shop after the war. Al is approaching 83 so his memory isn't dead on so he couldn't recall exactly when they started making them but I found an Anson ad in the Aug. 1955 Hot Rod (page 61) that say's the are "new". I know that most if not all of the originals are die cast as opposed to the current version which is sand cast. The idle screw adjusters, as far as I know are add-ons. The intake is probably 60's but again, the date of the switch from block to script logo has never been nailed down. (to get a look at the very first of the Sharp flathead equipment, get a reprint of the first issue of Hot Rod and look on the inside front cover. Note the intake had no generator braket, that was a seperate bolt-on piece). Hope this helps.
     
  22. mr.midnite
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    Pat, it's good to see you here. I figured if anyone had knowledge about Sharp other than Al himself it would be you. I'll be sending you that "box" shortly and calling for the aluminum flywheel for the RedRam
     

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