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Technical Re instaling front crossmember ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Gurt74, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. Gurt74
    Joined: Nov 30, 2017
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    So i managed to find a front crossmember at a swapmeet yesturday for the 35 Ford. Now i can get rid of the god awful IFS. so im wondering what the best method would be for re-attaching the crossmember to the rails ? Any suggestions? Bolt, weld ,rivet ???

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  2. tubman
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    I replaced the front cross-member on a '36 Ford I had about 20 years ago. I got a reproduction piece from Precision Coachworks. They supplied a set of "****on-head" cap screws with it. I installed them with red "Loc-***e" and the proper torque. After installation, I filled in the recesses in the heads with bondo and sanded and painted them. They looked just like rivets. I drove the car 5 years before I sold it and never had a second thought about the repair. In retrospect, if I were going to do it today, I'd use something a little more durable than bondo, perhaps JB Weld. I am sure properly installed rivets would be the best way to go, but it was a little above my pay grade at the time and I think the bolts were sufficient.

    This was on a basically stock car to replace a cracked cross-member. The way the IFS was installed will affect your particular case and it may require fitting and welding.

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  3. HOTRODPRIMER
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    If the holes are still there from the rivets I would bolt it in place to make sure everything is square,then I would weld it in place. HRP
     
  4. Model A Gomez
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    A lot of early Ford frames flex a lot and that is why they were riveted rather than welded. On Model A frames welding the crossmember in without boxing the frame will create a stress point and they will crack. Not sure how much the later frames flex but Ford used rivets for a reason.
     
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  6. HOTRODPRIMER
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    The reason for the frame to flex had more to do with the ladder construction and no real cross-bracing,today we don't need the frame to flex due to paved highways instead of pig paths that were the main routes for transporting during the era. HRP
     
  7. Gurt74
    Joined: Nov 30, 2017
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    Im guessing 8.8 ? Im thinking if you go higher its too brittle?

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  8. 19Fordy
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    Last edited: Mar 12, 2018
  9. If you want to go original and don't mind working your *** off then buck rivets. Lost of them get bolted and that is an option that is easy enough. I have been known to weld 'em but I don't care if anyone thinks I am cool or lot. :D

    ****on head screws resemble rivets at a glance and lots of guys like that look. It is a good tradeoff if you are after the riveted look.
     

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