If I have Deuce rails, Buggy Spring and split bones mounted on a cross member, Do I need a pan hard bar on my Banjo rear end?
Loaded question. With short shackles and no wag in them - you don't need one, but its not going to hurt to have it. If I only had room for one, Id rather have an anti roll bar.
What 31Vicky said. The the Panhard rod the anti-sway bar do two different things. Just for the accuracy of it, Panhard is one word, the guys name who came up with the idea. Mike
put longer shackles in it so they are more vertical, then use a panhard. The shackles can "float" enough to eliminate any binding with the panhard.
With open drive what you really need is a torque arm. You have done more then one thing when you split the bones and took away the closed drive shaft (torque tube), you have lost a little triangulation and you have loaded a lot of the stress that the torque tube used to take up on the bones.
Have built 100's of buggy spring rear suspensions with ladder bars and to date have never used a panard bar. I always design the suspension so the shackles are at a 45 degree angle under a load. I have had no customer complaints yet. All three of my current deuces, (3 window, delivery and roadster) have buggy spring rear suspension. I do agree with the need for a torque arm since you are using the early bones.
"What are you building? Like the green. The guys above have it right." It's a finished car that I just bought. Going through it and want to "fix" anything before I get too far down the road. Thanks for the responses. Here's a pic of the car. Boon
Yep! Nice one Panhard bar keeps the rear centered left and right during suspension travel. Torque arm keeps the rear end from rolling under torque load from engine or braking. Anti sway bar helps with body roll on buggy springs
Boon, your coupe looks great. Suggest you listen to those recommending a panhard bar plus torque arm - they're giving good advice. Cheers.
I have actually spent the last hour or so looking for a pic of the Raven launching the '27 @ MOKAN, 5" wide tires (traction impaired) mild 355 and light car. The split bones are a rainbow. we have since gone to ladder bars.
a friend of mine built that car , the only thing i would add if it was mine is a torque arm as suggested ...no need for a rear panhard
The car already has a panhard bar, it's also called a spring. As for the torque arm being needed, it depends on what bones and how they are mounted as well as horse power. Since it is a finished driving car I would think all is in order...no?
Do you have a problem of tires scrubbing the body when you are "drifting"? No? Then no need to add the Panhard. As stated above, a shackle at 45 degrees does the job of keeping the axle in the correct position side-to-side.
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