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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 409deuce, Mar 6, 2011.

  1. 409deuce
    Joined: May 28, 2005
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    Afternoon gents,
    I did the search as per protocol but still have a question. My rad does not have the fluid cooler built in so my question is would one of those frame mount finned aluminum coolers be enough? some people have used those with success but I'm not sure if they are strictly used in conjunction with a rad cooler. Maybe one of those stacked plate/electric fan coolers is necessary. Thanks allot!


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    700r4
    2500 stall
    4:10`s
    2700lbs
     
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    here's what I'm running, it cools a 2 speed powerglide.....got it at the local parts store.....I want the tranny to stay cool, that's why it's mounted there..........
     
  3. Dreddybear
    Joined: Mar 31, 2007
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    It should totally be enough.
     
  4. 69fury
    Joined: Feb 24, 2009
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    i just recently looked this up myself, as my new project's rad is without builtin trans cooler.

    I asked around about the heat sink style frame mount ones-long finned chunks of alluminum that look like a car audio amplifier.- they hadn't run one but were thinking that there was more surface area to them.

    Underwhelmed, i searched the net, and found many people saying the heat-sink style ones are NOT to be used for the sole cooling method.

    I even found a Q&A auto website, where a bigwig from Derale answered this question- he said that the heat sink style is best used as a secondary cooler to augment the coolers installed in RV's, big vans, and other bus-type, road going beasts.

    Derale sells many different types-radiator style, cooling modules (radiator with a fan attached) and many different heat sink styles- so i'm really going with his answer that for hot rods, race cars, muscle cars, etc. to NOT expect a frame mounted heat sink style to perform on its own.

    I've used a Summit brand tube and fin style radiator cooler in front of my engine radiator and loved it, but it's too thick to mount in the new car- so my choices are a thinner one, or to mount a smaller one in the airflow elsewhere or:

    remotely mounting a cooling module (radiator/fan assembly) somewthere under the car (or even in a trunk if the lid was louvered, or otherwise vented).

    Remote cooling modules are used alot by the 4X4 crowd- up high behind the cab for the desert runners-sometimes underneath tucked up above the frame rails for security- they're great.

    what i've learned:

    stacked plate with fan=best
    stacked plate without fan= 2nd best
    tube fin style with fan= tied for 2nd best
    tube fin style without fan=3rd best, fine in front of radiator
    heat sink style= supplemental only
    Derale trans pan with cool tubes through the sump=unknown but it cant hurt-we'll see.

    there's a lot of different opinions of where to put trans temp senders- do you want to know how well the cooler is working -put it in the output of cooler.
    wanna know what's going into the trans? put it in the pan
    wanna know what's in the valvebody circuitry? put it in the vb output or other ports depending on trans-

    i've got a 727 and dont really want 3 trans temp gauges, so i'm still undecided on that one, lol.

    rick
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2011
  5. walrus
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    You have plenty ,,,,sam
     
  6. Detonator
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    from santa cruz

    My dads' roadster has a TH350 trans. I mounted a B&M "Supercooler" finned cooler on the outside frame rail, under the splash apron. I built an offset bracket so the rear of the cooler is angled out away from the rail so it catches plenty of air. It has lots of miles on it and has worked fine.

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  7. Gdog3225
    Joined: Oct 11, 2009
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    from Tennessee

    I got a universal one from auto parts store. It has worked for 3 years drivin in the summer at some of the hottest temps. I have not had any trouble out of it.
     
  8. 409deuce
    Joined: May 28, 2005
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  9. GARY T.
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    from S.W. Pa

    I had one of the round finned heat sink types in my model T running 350-350 and was skeptical so I put out $$$ for a B&M tranny temp gage----it never went over 180 almost too cool! Mine was 18" and had the inlet & outlet on the same side
     
  10. Deuce Roadster
    Joined: Sep 8, 2002
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    Most Ford Explorers ( 1999 to about 2002 ) have a extra transmission cooler ... mounted behind the grille. They are about the size of the B&M plate type and are CHEAP in the junk yard. I never pay more than 5 dollars for one at the Pick-N-Pull parts place. They also have a mounting bracket ( not shown ) and have pipe fittings ... not hose ends.

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  11. Dreddybear
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    Deuce that's a great bit of info.
     
  12. bill wallace
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    ive used the sumitt cooler on several race cars & never had a problem.
     
  13. 41 C28
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    I have coolers mounted on model A's mounted between the frame and running board splash appron.
     
  14. hotrod_32
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    Used a small remote on frame rail,works fine !
     
  15. DIRTY_WHITE_BOY
    Joined: Jun 1, 2008
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    from Tennessee

    18" Finned cooler cools my 200R4. Mounted on fender well where old fresh air inlet is. Gus
     
  16. Ice man
    Joined: Mar 12, 2008
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    Being a HVAC guy i got a small refrigeration condenser and mouted it under the Van and it woked very good. Later I used a similar condenser on my 29 Roadster, mounted in front of the oil pan hump and it cooled a Ford AOD in St.Thomas, VI and we get warm here. Both were free, and did the job. Iceman
     

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