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Hot Rods Removing spring leaves

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by wstory, May 14, 2025.

  1. wstory
    Joined: Jul 4, 2008
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    Searching this forum,...could not find anything. Removing a leaf or two from a front spring on a 30's Ford has been a way to get the front end lower. Questions are,...is that an acceptable idea?...are there risks other than "bottoming out"?,...which leaves?
    My 31 Model A Highboy is on a Deuce frame with "A" crossmember and a 4" axle. The engine weight is equivalent to a SBC.
    I'd appreciate a response from someone who has done it,...with or without success.
    Tx Bill
     
  2. When I did mine, many moons ago, I removed every other leaf, and worked for a total of seven. You may have to play a bit with yours.
     
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  3. Bandit Billy
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    I did this to my 34 ford. When I was designing my hood, I noticed it was "running uphill" to the radiator, no bueno! I already had the radiator built, lowering the radiator made lower hoses (flathead) impossible as they interfered with the crossmember, so I removed and lowered the front crossmember. This of course raised the stance of the car in front. To compensate I removed the top spring and the short one on top of the stack. I made a spacer out of a block of aluminum to fill the gap I created.

    The roadster has been on the road for 6 years and rides nice even with two guys in the car. I run a couple of Bilstein tube shocks up front, hairpins, typical hot rod setup. All steel car, Blown Flathead, is not light.
    upload_2025-5-14_12-39-47.jpeg
    In retrospect it would have been easier to cut the radiator core down but why do things easy?
     
  4. Jmountainjr
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    What spring are you starting with? Original Ford or replacement? Original Ford roadster is typically 7 leaves, roadster PU and PU 10 leaves. Closed cars usually 9. Reversing the main leaf eyes and removing one or two leaves is a good start. Typically remove every other leaf from the top of the pack.
     
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  5. flatheadpete
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    Has it been 6 years? Holy crap time flies. I love that car.
     
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  6. '29 Gizmo
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    Front spring does not have much of an arch so you won't gain much. You will also run into shackle clearance issues. Reverse eye main leaf gives about 3/4 inch drop.
     
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  7. Bandit Billy
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    @wstory what do you have to lose to try it? Remove a few, give it a whirl, put 'em back in if it doesn't work to your satisfaction. Mine is a super slide spring with reversed eyes. If you haven't reversed your eyes, start there.
    Yes it has. 2019 Portland Roadster Show. It has become a pretty nice road car, but I am still making adjustments. They are never done! Long live the flathead!
     
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  8. Joe H
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    Local spring shop told me to remove every other one starting with the smallest on my Chevy truck. I started with 7, ended up with 4. I added back the same space with a aluminum block, I wasn't trying to lower the truck, wanted a softer ride. I have since replaced the four spring packs with Detroit Spring custom made ones, I was getting nervous about the four 80 year old springs.
     
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  9. When I built my A, I used a stock frame with a '30/'31 front crossmember. I used a '35 front axle, reversed eye model A top spring, '32 spindles and removed #2 and #3 springs from my A front spring pack. This is how it ended up sitting... 117.jpg
     
  10. skooch
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    That’s a really nice blue.
     
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  11. Mr48chev
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    I'm going to assume that you have already reversed the eyes on the main leaf? That is the simple way to get a bit over an inch of drop.
    Another thing is just de-arching the spring a bit. Meaning deliberately flattening the arch of the leaves out a bit. That either takes a lot of work if you don't have the equipment or taking it to a local spring shop and having them rework it to your specs. Years ago I could re-arch or de-arch a spring with a sledge hammer and an anvil but I am not strong enough now.
     
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  12. wstory
    Joined: Jul 4, 2008
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    Thanks all for your input. Bottom line is, I guess I just have to "go for it!" Did not mention previously that I have an aftermarket Roadster Supply Co spring with reversed eyes with nylon pucks on each leaf. The frame is also notched directly above the spring. I'll probably start with removing #2 and #4 leaves.
    Will be awhile but will letcha know how it works out.
     
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