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Removing Springs From Model T Rear Spring

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by bigd4xman, Jul 13, 2007.

  1. SchlottyD
    Joined: Feb 4, 2007
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    I just picked up a Model T rear spring to run on my 29 Model A frame (whatever it is in the long run), needless to say I have already pulled springs out of my Model A front spring pack, it's now down to six and seems like it will ride how I want and it looks nice too. I would like to do the same with the T spring but am a little leary of doing so as I have not worked with a spring design with this much built in arch. If I do remove springs (which I really want to to make it match the front) which springs should I remove? How many should I remove? I would like the spacing end to end of all the springs in the pack to be the same throughout, this is crucial to me as little details like this can really piss me off if they don't look right. Can it be done?:eek:
     
  2. Your stock springs are gonna make you sit way to high.

    You need to reverse the eyes on the main leaves. Then you can put them all back in.

    OR jsut buy them already made from Speedway
     
  3. T springs are pretty soft.........keep em all until the car has ALL the final weight on it and you drive it a while. Trust me, I added leaves to mine
     
  4. swade41
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    from Buffalo,NY

    I just went through two days of swapping leafs in and out on my T rear spring. I used the teflon liner and it made the spring flatten out a bit as compared to mockup without the liner.
     
  5. SchlottyD
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    Well I WILL NOT be buying new springs, otherwise why go through all the trouble to find old ones in the first place? Around where I live this stuff is not easy to come by. I'm not going to reverse the eyes, but the springs are gonna sit lower than the axle front and back, I'm not looking to go extremely low here just lower than stock.
     
  6. pasadenahotrod
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    from Texas

    You can "zee" the A frame in the back which will give a drop of about 3" by itself. You can also extend the frame back a few inches and drop the spring off the top of the rearend and use fabricated spring perches like the V8 cars welded to the axle tubes.

    In the front, you can, depending on whether or not you're running the radiatro in stock position, "flatten" out the front crossmember for an inch or more drop too.

    Removing spring leaves is more a ride thing than a drop thing, if you know what I mean. Always keep the main leaf(duh) and the 2nd leaf, remove the odd numbered leaves (3,5,7,9,11) in a combination you keep track of because you may remove and replace the spring several times as you "tune" it to your car's weight.
    What's right? I stop when I can push down on the front of the frame and get a bounce or two out of the spring with shocks mounted, with the engine etc. in it of course, same applies to the rear.
     
  7. SchlottyD
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    Removing leaves is a ride thing first off but if you pull enough you can gain a 1 to 4 inch drop because it causes the spring to de arch some, I have used this method on several vehicles and always got around a 2" drop or more. I enjoy a little softer ride anyways and when I put my weight on the T spring it didn't hardly move! Pulling springs from my A spring in the front has already dropped it at least 3 inches I'd say roughly. I would Z the frame but I would like to leave this one stock because I'm still learning, although I can weld and Fab pretty well I tend not to mess with frames too much as 1 mistake can cost you your life. The spring Will be moved from the top of the axle to a position somewhere below the axle with custom brackets because my rear axle is going to be hung kind of "Suicide Style", it will set out behind the frame and crossmember except for a little bit of the center diff and pinion. The front will run a dropped axle and also custom mounts to mount the spring even with or a little lower than the axle I may suicide it too or cut off the front frame horns. You know what they say "DARE TO BE DIFFERENT" well, ever seen one Suicided on both ends with the stock frame?

    06/15/07 JUST got back from a show and Alot of guys are running a model A spring up front with leaves pulled down to 6 or even 4 leaves, they flatten out alot and give PLENTY of drop.
     
  8. SchlottyD
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    Still looking for input on this matter. Did any A's come with a really High arch in the spring because the one I have isn't as narrow as all of the T springs I've seen and the ends sit pretty close to the crossmember, as in they don't drop very far down. Thanks, just want some more input is all.
     
  9. Yup - I'd agree here - leave 'em all in. I run a stock T rear spring. nice soft ride. Wouldn't alter it till you decide what's gonna be weighing it down...

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