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Technical ???resharpen valve seat cutter

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dhughens, Jul 1, 2025.

  1. dhughens
    Joined: Jan 28, 2015
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    dhughens

    Can this style of valve seat cutter be resharpened? If so, would you use a valve grinder, lathe, or some other type equipment? I have older USA made cutters and I see newer India made cutters. The ones I have are dull, they cut but just barely. I believe they were used for decades before carbides were available but I find it hard to believe they were throwaway pieces. The pics are new examples, not the ones I have. Again, can these type valve seat cutters be resharpened in a reasonable manner? cutter01.jpg cutter02.jpg
     
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  2. 302GMC
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    The first year I worked in a machine shop, the owner taught us how to sharpen everything in the shop. Ir's all in the quality of your files, and holding them right.
     
  3. FrozenMerc
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    302GMC is spot on. Yes they can be re-sharpened. The challenge is resharpening them without affecting the cutting geometry.
     
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  4. Budget36
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    I recall a friend of my dad who talked about sharpening files, if memory serves, they were put in some type of acid solution.
    I wonder if that would work for you as well?

    PS, I have the same style of seat cutters.
     
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  5. Sharpone
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    I would check the local machine shops they may resharpen their own tools or have some outfit do it for them. There are many services for resharpening machine tools online.
    Dan
     
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  6. Beanscoot
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    I would imagine those are too hard to sharpen with files.
    In my machinist apprenticeship I sharpened lots of various cutters using a diamond wheel on a "tool and cutter grinder".
    You'd have to make a simple mandrel to hold those cutters in the machine's collet chuck.

    With labour rates at machine shops, it probably isn't practical to pay for the service.

    Here's a typical unit:

    [​IMG]
     
  7. xix32
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    I've only seen stones for grinding valve seats and valves, those can be "dressed" when they get worn.
     
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  8. TCTND
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    As mentioned they could be sharpened with the right equipment, but those were meant for cutting the cast iron seats of the day. Even sharpened they'll have a challenge with hardened seats and won't last long.
     
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  9. Budget36
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    The stone pictures is for hand cutting the seat, pilot goes through it, then (on mine) tighten a bolt on the bottom of the pilot and it expands and keeps it all centered.
     
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  10. dhughens
    Joined: Jan 28, 2015
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    Thanks for all the replies. Seems like not really practical to sharpen and I don't have the equipment to do so.
     
  11. 31 Coupe
    Joined: Feb 25, 2008
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    Do you have access to a die grinder, preferable one with a 1/8" collet?
    If so you can carefully grind the front edge/face of each tooth ..... carefully because you must remove a very similar amount from each tooth face otherwise their diameters will be inconsistent.
    Unless they are chipped you only need to rub a couple of thou from each tooth face to get an improvement.
    Much like sharpening a HSS lathe tool.
     
  12. dhughens
    Joined: Jan 28, 2015
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    dhughens

    I do have die grinders as well as dremels, would you use a carbide cut off wheel to do this?
     
  13. Jagmech
    Joined: Jul 6, 2022
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    I have used a tungsten carbide brake lathe bit to bring the edge back on reamer flutes, also try McMaster Carr for a diamond file, several types, the one I have will dress 65R steel, cost $100. Thin ones are available. Not Harbor Freight, good ones are expensive . If you want to buy a new cutter ,try Regis Manufacturing.
     
  14. Johnny Gee
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    That equipment is called a Jack Mill. Ran one for several years in the saw room of a large cabinet manufacturing plant. That said, seek out a saw sharping shop, not a machine shop. Big difference in labor cost.
     
  15. Budget36
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
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    Which size cutter is it? I may have, I two of quite a few of my set.
    And just for clarity, you are refacing the seats by hand? Ie not in a drill.


    Edit: I see yours screw on in place, mine fit on a taper.
     

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