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Technical Reverse Lock out

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Sharpone, Oct 1, 2025 at 10:12 AM.

  1. Sharpone
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    I installed a B&M unimatic shifter in my project car. I filed the detents a little deeper for a more positive engagement however the shifter can pushed into neutral or reverse fairly easy. I will make a reverse lock out.
    My question is should lock out neutral also? Or only reverse? Is there a reason I may not want neutral locked out?
    Thank you in advance.
    Dan
     
  2. squirrel
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    Lick out?

    I would only lock out reverse. Not neutral.

    That shifter sucks.
     
  3. Sharpone
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    Yep I know I asked Mods to change lol
    Why not lock out neutral?
    Looking at the shifter you made I noticed neutral not locked out, so I figured there must be a reason.
    I will take your advice and and only lock out reverse.
    Thank you
    Dan
     
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  4. catdad49
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    We Need video!
     
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  5. squirrel
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    There might be a button called "thread tools" that you can select to find a way to edit the thread title. Depends on what you're using to view the forum, I think.

    Often I want to get into neutral while driving forward, or stopped momentarily. Having a lockout would be a real hassle, I think. Especially with an engine that doesn't always idle properly, or tends to die occasionally. It's also a good idea to have the neutral safety switch let you start it in P and N

    But it should be a little bit difficult to get into reverse.
     
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  6. swade41
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    Neutral can save your ass at times, like if you blew a brake line, quickly put it into neutral so you can get it stopped.
    It's also handy when you want to cruise by your buddy's house or in a tunnel or under a bridge to rev your engine.
     
  7. ClayMart
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    Go to your first post in your thread. Just to the right above the post you may see a button for Thread Tool. Click it and open the option for "Edit Title". Squirrel is probably right that this may not work in all browsers or Android on a smart phone. Some less important options like this may not be available on phones due to screen space restrictions. It might appear if you turn your phone to landscape mode but I've never tried it.

    The Thread Tool will be available only to you for the threads that you started.
     
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  8. ClayMart
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    My first impulse would be to pull it down into a lower gear to get things slowed down.
    :eek:
     
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  9. Sharpone
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    Yep I see it Thanks, I’ll forget before I need it again lol
    Dan
     
  10. swade41
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    Well it all depends on the situation, regardless I would want neutral available to me without much fanfare.
    To be honest I've never even seen a neutral lockout in any aftermarket shifter, must be a reason for that.
    Imagine trying to pull a "Rockford" having to go through both a reverse and neutral lockouts !
     
  11. Sharpone
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    I’ve never seen a neutral lock out on after market shifter either, like you say there must be a reason. The only reason I thought about locking out neutral is I don’t think shifting into N at WOT would be good. My present engine set up would probably survive as I have a stock cam and valve train with smog heads I doubt it will rev much over 5k maybe 5500. Down the road with a cam, lifter springs etc who knows how high it will rev. I believe the stock bottom end is good for a min of 5500. Maybe I’ll invest in a rev limiter.
    Dan
    Oh I take it R isn’t for Race lol
     
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  12. 19Eddy30
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    I have regated shifters like that ,including Lokar,
    Does that one , Can not Remember
    Does shifter Lift or push Handle
    from park to R,N D
    @Sharpone I have a race shifter in one of my Rids with Neutral lockout also with a positive reverse lock out , Simple design, No ratcheting.
    Just Depend depends on D to N no lock out but If I start in 1st to 2nd 3rd to N
    All have Half lock outs if you keep pressure On Handle
     
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  13. Bandit Billy
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    Here's one. :cool:
    shifter.jpg
     
  14. Sharpone
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    Have to push down to move shifter. It’s a cheap shifter, I filed the detents a little deeper for a more positive shift. However it’s still fairly easy to push through the gears. I think the shifter could be bumped into neutral or reverse while driving. I think a lock out will be easy to fabricate.
    Dan
     
  15. 19Eddy30
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    @Sharpone
    With out seeing gates & in hand ,
    Most can be modified , weld up
    Filed & gated like you described
    You definitely want a positive
    " Reverse" lockout especially Neutral to Reverse Side
     
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  16. RmK57
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    If there’s a risk of shifting from 2nd to 3rd and over shifting to neutral I would want a lock out. Mine B&M pro stick has a lock out feature built.
     
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  17. 325w
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    What squirrel said
     
  18. I've had my throttle jam full open on the highway once and appreciated the opportunity to shift into neutral after first killing the ignition.
     
  19. 19Eddy30
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    Different between Full lock out &
    1/2 Lock out .
     
  20. swade41
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    Hey, I used to have one of those in my Hurst/Olds, never gave it a thought.

    Also I guess my Hurst Quarter Stick has a neutral lock out, it will only go to third unless you release the lever, then it'll move one more position.

    And the Hurst shifter in my t-bucket is similar, when you go to first it drops down then only ratchets one gear at a time. To go to neutral you have to lift the stick up, it's all just second nature to do it, never gave it much thought.

    I've got to start paying attention around here ! Lol
     
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