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"Rides" on TLC tonite...doing a show on "rat rods"..loosely

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by MercMan1951, Aug 3, 2004.

  1. I thought the slogan that the one guy used last night kinda fit. "You build a custom to get the chicks.. Then you build the HotRod to get away from them..."
     
  2. lilbill
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    i know there were english cars that had wood floors and body panel frames into the 60's. triumph tr3 for one.
    also, like was said here before, i too fear the price of "vintage" parts is about to go off the charts. i can still remember the days of $500 panheads before harleys became fashion statements. defineately a great show though. i may have to take my chainsaw out in the backyard and cut that "T" frame loose from the underbrush.
     
  3. KIRK!
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    I know Verne, Sandy and Keith and they are more than the real deal when it comes to cars and even nicer guys. I'm stoked that they were the ones chosen to do the show. They did a perfect job of relating at least MY personal feelings about the whole Rat Rod vs. Hot Rod thing.

    As for Williams.......WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?! I have hung out with him a couple times and he is definitely a talker but to claim it all came from him? Dude, COME ON! I have built this type of car for 18 years and didn't see his roadster until about 10 years ago. His car had little influence on me nor anyone I know. Neither did the article about the Choppers that they mentioned. We were already doing the same thing too. Actually my influence for driving shit around unfinished started when I was like 10 years old. I grew up in SoCal and used to see the lowrider guys in Santa Ana driving their primered Monte Carlos around with brand new wires. For some reason I was drawn to that stuff even then. Movements don't come from one person. They come from many like-minded people evolving at the same time. Now to claim that Ed Roth has had an influence on all of us.....HELL YES. Granted, Robert Williams did all of my favorite Ed Roth art, so I love Mr. Williams as an artist. I hope they took his comment out of context and that he doesn't really believe what he said.

    Anyway, as much as I don't like to see things I like to do on TV, that fucking show made me so depressed that I wasn't out in the garage working on MY shit.

    Nice job TLC and nice job Choppers (as usual)!
     
  4. willowbilly3
    Joined: Jun 18, 2004
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    I really liked the show and how they put the term rat rod to bed. They maybe weren't as period correct as they think they are or as true to the roots. He did have to use several colors of yellow paint to make the wheels look aged and I really don't think the frame would have been found under a 50's car but that is all just nitpickin.
    I really doubt the show has the impact on civicliztion and humainty that some of you fatalists want to give it credit for. I doubt if the gold chainers even watched let alone give a shit about the worth of old parts. Can't you just enjoy the fact that something we like and live was well represented without all the hand wringing over what kind of negative impact it might have? Did you watch Big that came on after it? Now is everyone going to run out and build a huge bike because Billy Lane helped build one? Dam there goes the huge big hobby, now it will just go to hell in a handbag when all the wannabes and posers take over.
     
  5. Sport N Woode
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    I thought it was a great show. loved the scenes from Viva Las Vegas....maybe i'll get to go someday. I thought the deal about the real magilla versus the shiny fiberglass rod was very well put. The only problem I see started way back when Hot Rod magazine started their "Dare to Be Different" crap and continued with this show. Everytime somebody finds a way to build a car using other people's throw aways, somebody else wants to show the whole world and let the so called secret out of the bag driving the prices up even further for anything Rat Rod, Vintage or what ever tag they want to put on it.
    I'm surprised someone hasn't bought this car already!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2485876934&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT


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  6. Sixcarb
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    I would have to say the show was pretty good, the best thing about it I thought was how they cut the top of the door after they chopped it, as it's portaryed if primer is rat rod what is shiny paint that is falling apart?



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  7. KustomF100
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    That was a very good show.The Choppers did a good job of down playing the "rat rod" term.Neat footage,kewl to see some of the parts hanging on the walls too.I do appreciate the added value given to the parts I have collected,lol.
    Does anyone have a pic of Robert Williams' car that started this whole hot rodding trend?I would like to see what it looked like.I do enjoy his art,and have a few of his posters.To me it seemed like he was being more sarcastic than serious....looking at it from that point of view made him a cool guy.
    R-raunchy
    A-and
    T-treacherous

    R-really
    O-old
    D-dangerous

    I never have liked the term rat rod,always preferred nostalgia rod...hot rod is king....but the term is used so loosely these days.

     
  8. Donzie
    Joined: Aug 9, 2001
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    Hmmm, where to start?
    3 newbies? I guess I missed one, I counted 2, but far less than I expected...and how do they find our secret hideout anayway?
    Robert Williams is 83? Damn, I hope I look that good at 83. A great artist yes, the Father of hot rodding?, I think not.
    Perhaps he meant that the Choppers started building cars modeled after his.
    I would have liked to see more coverage of VLV but I realize they only have an hour. I applaud the Choppers for their work-together attitude. I know that there are other clubs on here that do that also. That to me is the way a car club should be, helping each other get and keep their cars on the road. There must be a lot of pride in seeing a car come toghter collectively. It truely becomes a club car.
    And not to get too sappy but that picture of him at 5 standing next to the body was way cool. And I really liked the fact that the whole family was there for the unveiling of the car. Dad, Mom AND step-dad, son and grandfather. Nice personal touch.
    Overall, a great show.
     
  9. ray
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    robert williams had more of an infleuence on my liking GUNS & ROSES back in the day than on my car choices!
     
  10. Saw the last portion of the show, yes they did pick the right car club to feature. Though it seems to me the Choppers have been a bit quite and keeping to themselves in the past years. I guess thats what happens when you actually getting stuff done.
    That was a cool rod that was built, but if you notice in that end shot where the coupe is driving down the street the body looks abit cockeyed on the frame, and not because of the rake. Just my opinion.
    I bet there is a lot of footage that gets cut and we didn't see half of it. A lot of quote get used out of context and such. Ride episode will endup on DVD for 10 bucks each, I've seen biker buildoff and motorcycle mania DVDs there.
    It seems the "Rides" crew got a copy of the MFS DVD and ran with it.
    If you guy think they put the term RATROD to bed, your wrong. Its going to be more popular than ever.
    I believe Jay Leno was paid some bucks for the apprearance, it's not because "he's cool like that", I know how PR works.
    Is Rides doing more "Ratrod" coverage? Their going to be at the HHR this weekend.
     
  11. 296 V8
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    296 V8
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    I was glad to see the chopper dudes blow off the stupid “rat rod” label. [​IMG] Greg
     
  12. Spitfire1776
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    "Primer is not a crime" stickers will be sold at local skate shops..
    OH, FUCK!

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    Now that's a good one.

    Flathead parts in Wal-mart? I didn't know China had the repro rights......
     
  13. Spitfire1776
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    I'm still waiting for Hankcash to hijack with girlie photos.

    It was a good episode of Rides, I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. They did build a cool car, and keep solid attitudes despite a camera in their face.

    Nads is right, R. Williams is a cocky SOB, but gotta love him for it.





    Still waiting..........
     
  14. slowpoke
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    I second the MFS comments. Hope Evel is getting some royalty checks. [​IMG]

    Good episode; very inspiring. Choppers did a very good job of not playing into TV's usual egos, stereotype representations. Hope I can find a group like that some day.

    ...as stupid as it is coming from a FNG I'm really afraid this going to put an extra $1k budget overage into my search for a body.
     
  15. hotrod54chevy
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    Anyway, as much as I don't like to see things I like to do on TV, that fucking show made me so depressed that I wasn't out in the garage working on MY shit.

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    my thoughts exactly..i didnt get to watch it till 1 a.m.,so i'm feelin you on this one
    Creepy
     
  16. Agrv8r
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    Only thing I thought funny was when they said that the car was getting people to crowd around it.
    Do ya think the camera crew might have something to do with that.....maybe?????

    Overall, probably the best episode of "Rides" yet. I could nit-pick it...but why? It was still good and it got the point across. It was good to hear them speak out against the term "rat rod".

     
  17. "Ol Skool Rodz" reader base just went up 1000%
     
  18. [ QUOTE ]
    "Ol Skool Rodz" reader base just went up 1000%

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    and the rat rodz debate has already begun (again)!!! i freaking love it.
     
  19. caught the show last night and overall i liked it, pretty good effort for a tv show.

    as for crowds around it i wouldn't be surprized, even without the celebs and the camera's.

    3 years ago at the good guys here in washington somebody from california brought an original hotrod from if i remember right 47, that had been in a barn since,

    looked very rough, used alot of crappy arc, and gas welds everywhere. used iron bed frame tubes for the headers etc...

    it sat in the middle of the show, and had crowds around it, no media and no celebs.... but a lot of pissed off goldchainers [​IMG]

    personally it was my favorite entry in the whole damned event.

    i just wish there was an equivalent to the "choppers" here in the seattle/tacoma area... perhaps there is?

    anyone know?

    bob g
     
  20. Eric S.
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    I didn't get to see this episode, but I hope it did the cars more justice than the History Channel's episode on Jeeps (my first love) that they keep showing. I swear, you could make a drinking game based on the fact errors and wrong footage, and get ripped out of your gourd!
     
  21. Upchuck
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    [ QUOTE ]
    used iron bed frame tubes for the headers etc...



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    I am using old brass under the sink elbows to reroute/splice some radiator hoses [​IMG]

    I didn't get to see it anyone got it taped they can copy and forward to me? [​IMG]
     
  22. "WTF"..., was something on TeeVee... [​IMG]??????

    T = The
    V = Vacume [​IMG] (Sucks your brains out!!! [​IMG])

    Mark [​IMG]
     
  23. JohnnyB327
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    hey hank how bout a few more photos? i got 3 bucks for another one
     
  24. JohnnyB327
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    damn comp just sent that bastard when i had more to say


    but back onto the period correctness how about the small block chevy as long as its not a 350, 383 or whatever c'mon a friend of mine got bitched at by some guy cuz he has a 331 cubic inch small block. the block is a 1963 block. sorry were all not rich enough or lucky enough to find a hemi. just my 2 pennies
     
  25. I'm heading out right now to get my copy of the new book "Robert Williams Re-invents the Traditional American Hotrod", I'm gonna see if it's next to the latest issue of Bo Huff Quarterly.....I mean Ol Skool Rods! [​IMG]
     
  26. 133
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    I saw the show and i liked it a lot. The VLV footage was really cool. they could've left out Bo Huff, OSR's version of GOD. Now I must comment on other people's comments. I figured that there would be some whiners here. there are some people on this Earth that you just can't please. you've been asking for a show like this for awhile now and once you get it, there's complaints about everything.

    And for the people that think that traditional cars are going to show up everywhere, you all just need to chill out. do you actually think that the whole nation on 15-20 year old males watch TLC? also, the people that think the HAMB is going to be flooded with newbies, ummmm...so what? does it matter? Everyone just needs to relax work on their cars instead of worrying about the state of hot rodding. if you'd spend the amount of time working on your car as you did whine, your car would be done by now.

    of course that's just my opinion; i could be wrong.
     
  27. Stone
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    But Robert Williams said it is done.Primer and all.He invented the stuff he should know. [​IMG]
     
  28. Deyomatic
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    The only part I didn't like was the Robert Williams part, but I absolutely loved the rest. The narrator made a few mistakes, but for my money, it was very tasteful and very entertaining, a very informative show for the people the don't "get it," and very fun to watch as someone who does.
    And at the risk of being unpopular, I liked it better than MFS.
     
  29. Brickster
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    Is this insulting? It is directly from the TLC site that describes last nights show.

    "For them, it's grunge and "cool" that comes with attitude. And controversies — some have honed the Rat Rods look into sleek, shiny cars; customs that win trophies and are still Rat Rods.

    A few Rat Rod purists have problems with this concept, insisting that true Rat Rods must live up to the name of "Rat Rod"; this debate is huge in the U.K., where armies of Rat Rodders slick back their hair and live a genuine Rat Rod lifestyle. The episode will also include cartoon legend Keith Weesner, an Art Center and Warner Brothers artist who specializes in drawing Rat Rods. In short: This episode will have stuff that even car builders haven't seen before."
     
  30. 46stude
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    I believe that in the UK, they embrace the phrase rat rod. Its not an insult to them over there.
     

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