You can try but you cannot redefine what is done. It has to look like it came off the street or strip in the mid 60's or before. That's how the HAMB has defined it for a long time. But then you've been here long enough to know that you just want to be contrary.
yeah, my life is pretty darn good. i couldn't imagine being so miserable that i have to call somebody a name over a thread about wheels.
chop55, go back and read your first reply. the question was, "of these two wheels, which ones do you like". you're the one who decided to dump all over them and anyone who might have thought of buying them. everybody else was answering his simple question. you got nasty first. then "need louvers" decided it was time for a history lesson and it just made things worse. "falcongeorge" added nothing but more rude comments. and because not everybody sees it your way, you three seem to think everybodys stupid but you. only your brand of hot rodding is valid. the names company's give to things they make are just that. names.we don't all think that with these wheels i will have a g***er! you guys are the ones who clicked on this post, you should have read it and clicked off. instead you saw a chance to cause havoc. go back and read you first post and see where this went south chop55. now to further confuse things, here's this,.
Hopefully saved some folks some money. I love history lessons; that's the best thing about this place.
I have 10 spoke ETS on mine, nice wheels , rockets look nice too, just depends on your style, the rockets are cheaper than ets polished. I prefer the radair 12 spokes but after you buy tires rims and brakes your 2500 into it. Run what ya want
I like the ET wheels over the Rockets; to answer the OP. With regards to the rest of this thread, I started my Hot Rod in about '66 and I pulled the FH and made my first attempt at installing an OHV v8. At that time, I would have been required to compete in C/Gas; I didn't have the eng. setback and I didn't get to complete the car. The fact that period correct( and most desireable) wheels were not one of the items I've rat holed for 45 years may make the car incomplete, but I don't see it as incorrect. JMO
may we can still salvage this thread by finding a wheel we can dis-like together, as americans. i would to suggest this.
WOW! you seem like a really angry guy. all i was trying to do was let the guy know that if he was doing a g***er type car, that there are better alternatives to a wheel that looks wrong for what he is doing. im guessing you probably own a set of these wheels and got your feelings hurt. you really need to relax.its not that big of a deal.
ok , my turn lol...why do people not like that wheel in uni lug.? i would like to know. ive heard most of the bs stories you could think of about them but not one i would agree with. ive owned and ran these wheels for yrs and the only part i dont like is getting them bolted on the rear with a heavy tire i never had one come off or break or even move around. cant hold them up like i used to...ive never had one come off or break or even move around so whats up.dont want to start no **** or hi jack a thread but i would like to know...
I have to agree on the uni-lug thing. Never personally knew of anyone who had a problem, other than a pain in the *** to put on the car.
I personally like the ET's. Sure they were not around in the 60's, but they are a safe reliable wheel that can be used on the street. It's your car build it the way you like. Just my 2 cents.
Problems arise when the wrong lugs or washers are used for that particular wheel. Lots of different shanked lugs, lots of different washers, lots of different wheels - don't mix them up..
So, the obvious question has not yet been asked. Why doesn't Rocket make a 16" no hole (as cast) smoothie, a la Halibrand? Their prices are reasonable & I'd think the machining and/or casting would be simple compared to the wheels they sell...like a wheel without the holes. I'd be the first in line. I (politely) E-mailed them in the past on this & never received a response. Maybe I'm missing something (as usual)?
Not to hijack, but did you notice this thread? To me these dont make me think Halis, so much as late twenties packard wheels, I but I DO think they look pretty good on there, and they are centers from those old dirtbag appliance wire baskets welded into 16" rims. Talk about making a silk purse from a sows ear! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8137578#post8137578 Check posts #87 and #93.
Do these look like any kind of wheel from "back in the day?" Sent from my DROID device using the TJJ mobile app
Sorry if I did get slightly off topic on the original poster's question, but I think we all enjoy exchanging views & ideas on this stuff. Yes, I did see his wheels & I do like them. As a matter of fact he & I shared a P.M. or two on the subject. I also agree with you about their look. I think that if the seam between the hoop & the flat center could in some way be magically filled in, he'd have a real contender.
The only company I can think of right now that is doing no holes is Real Rodders Wheels. Damned expensive though, and the sizes offered aren't quite right. There is a guy out of San Fransico that is doing dead bang Halibrand 18" Indy wheel copies out of magnesium who had been talking about repopping no holes, but I haven't seen them yet. That'll work for me! Kinda hard to believe they were a silly high dollar low volume wheel when they were cooked up about twenty years ago. They do kinda split the difference between the Halibrand Sprint and the E.T. III though. These are meant to look a bit like the earliest Halibrand 15" spindle mount wheels of the late fifties. They could be ordered with the machine work done to either mount the backside out, (which this is supposed to mimic) or with the outside out. Most that we see out there have the inside out. That said, these suffer the same fate as the fake 12 spokes this thread was originally about; but have one redeaming value - I think they could be very simply modified to represent "the next chapter" that several of the original wheels evolved to. By machining the center web out of the Halibrand spindle mounts and drilling a bolt pattern, they could be run on a disc or drum brake. I can see where the same could be done with these. Throw it in a lathe and knock the five little center spokes out of the front and it would certainly look the part. Would be a great alternative to the originaly posted wheels that would be fairly accurate.
I'm going back to the original entry here...I think it was the first post(?) it don't matter. I think the irony here is that the guy was particular enough to not want the valve stem out front, but was willing to run the wannabes. You have to admit, there's a little bit of a juxtaposition there. Chip, of all the 50 different sets of wheels you've had on that old Plymouth, I like the Salt Flats the least. I still love you however, just not my favorite rollers. When I first saw them somewhere, I thought, COOL, an affordable Hal type wheel. I think they are actually pretty far from looking accurate. The basic shapes seem pretty right on, just that they are too chiseled and sharp where even, brand new kidneys were much softer. ...and as the HAMB liaison and amb***ador for Real Rodders Wheels, what exactly is inaccurate with the sizing? Granted, they could be offered in EVEN MORE sizes than the already available boatload of options, but what are you wanting to see?
this is the one that got me! the ribs on the inside spokes are one of the things that they got right! the early 12 spoke americans had the ribs, later ones did not. i've got a set of each.
Is that what it was? It seems like just as many have ribs as don't. Didn't know if maybe they were different manufacturers or like you said, just later design. The Radir designed 12 spokes are nice. Just heavier looking (probably to cover their *** more than anything).
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