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RPU with big wheels and no radiator?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Kevin Lee, Mar 16, 2004.

  1. Kevin Lee
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    Look for it in av8's March Meet post. Just wondering what the story is with that hot rod? I think it rules but I wonder what the thinking was behind the lack of cooling? You might say "Race Car" - but it has headlights? How long do you suppose a flathead could run at normal temp. with just the water in the block and a couple of return tubes? I don't see anything that suggests a hidden radiator - just chrome tubing connecting one bank to the other.

    The wheels - V8 centers with Model A hoops?
     
  2. derelict
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    Radiators' in the bed.
     
  3. Grim
    I scopein' that PU out right now. It looks like it has one pump and there is something layed down between the lights. But I sure don't see anything going into the block.
    I'd sure like to know more about it myself. There is plenty of places to hide a cooling system, and I guess you could use an eletric pump, but it sure doesn't look like they've done that.
    My guess is race car, very short track. And hope it doesn't rain hard until its cooled itself down. [​IMG]
    I guess if it was an alky car it might run several miles before you have to shut it down. Light it and fly.

    UH never mind.
    Hey Derelict you had a chance to scope it out? How'd the get the water back to the radiator?
    Just curious.
     
  4. Kevin Lee
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    derelict - Man, you're like a poet. Your discription has painted such a vivid picture. [​IMG]

    Now my curiosity is piqued. I just think that is a really cool little hot rod and never took rhe time to look closely at the pictures I've seen of it. Anyone have those pictures that were shot of it last year at speed week? Alternator/generator driven from the driveshaft I assume?

    P&Ber - Looks like I'll be out of town this weekend. But I just talked to BenD - he'll be leaving some stuff with you that I'll have to stop by and pick up sometime soon.
     
  5. Not a problem. If its something I need there may be a breakin. Bad neighborhood ya know. [​IMG]
    Is it big, do I need my cherry picker here?
     
  6. Kevin Lee
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    You need a tow-bar and a waterski? ...yup, I said a waterski.

    So how about it? Who's had a close look at this truck?
     
  7. Well I guess there won't be no breakin. Water's made to be in not on. [​IMG] Got ya covered freind.

    Now onto bigger n better things. I'm with Grim, who got up close n personal with this truck. I'm about eat up with curiosity.
     
  8. ShortBus
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    I saw this one at CHRR last year. Could this be it? I only see one water pump.

    [​IMG]

     
  9. Kevin Lee
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    That's it. One pump, no plumbing leading away from the motor that I can see, somehow I'm not buying "Radiators' in the bed" anymore. Do you know if it was driven to CHRR? Was it driven to Bonneville? At Bonneville?
     
  10. Unkl Ian
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    Looks like the louvers in the bed cover face forward,which would suggest a rad in the bed.
    There was a very similar truck at Paso a couple years ago,with the rad in the back.
    But it had a 6 cyl.
    Any chance it's the same ride?

    [​IMG]
     
  11. TV
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    Grim, I have seen this car a couple of times,last year at the hotel bash at night after hrr. Then again this last Saturday during the day at Fomosa.This car has the look. It is so low it would be like riding on a roller skate.The car does have a radiator in the bed, I talked to the owner says he dosen't drive the thing very far.I like the look, but I would have put some sort of chopped shell in front for looks.But you gotta hand it to the builder,it looks cool even if not to practical.--TV [​IMG]
     
  12. yorgatron
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Radiators' in the bed.

    [/ QUOTE ] he didn't say "it's probably in the bed" you couldn't just take his word for it?
     
  13. Kevin Lee
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    Nope. I'll take TV's word though. See any differences between his and derelict's post?

    TV - I agree. The truck looks well thought out even if it is limited to short trips. Nothing there that makes me want to change how I'm building my current car but I always like filing this stuff away for possible use in future projects. Lot's of neat ideas there. You didn't happen to see how the radiator plumbing was routed did you? I still can't figure it out.

     
  14. Lowlife
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    Here are a few of the plumbing from last year.
     

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  17. Now I see it. Both banks tied together and one line leading back to the Rad. One line forward, simple and probably doable. Perhaps an electric pump back by the radiator wouldn't hurt a thing, and the obvious eletric fan.
    At least now I know what the thing I saw in between the lights is.
    Thanks for the info,
    The PknBner [​IMG]
    BTW I've seen a bunch with thw rad in the bed or even the turtledeck over the years, with a little planning they can be more than drivable.
     
  18. TV
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    Well guys, what he did was,tie the heads togeather and stub off of that to the rad.in the back.Then he used one pump on the drivers side, blocked off pasg side, but stubbed a pipe out of it and tied into the pump pipe and went back to the other side of the radiator.I don't know how it works cause the block doeen't tie togeather from side to side in stock configuration.Who knows whats going on inside???--TV [​IMG]
     
  19. Kevin Lee
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    The plumbing makes sense now. I still don't understand why there's only one pump, but the rest makes sense. Thanks for the pictures.
     
  20. Hot Rod To Hell
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    If he were to run an electric pump, wouldn't he still need that one mechanical pump to use as an idler pulley to have the generator belt go around (for clearance) the front mount dizzy???
     
  21. How the hell does that werk, don't you need a return line ? Or am I missing something.
    Great Looking Ride though.

    Maiki
     
  22. Hot Rod To Hell
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    I think that the return line is the one headed down toward the frame behind the left headlight....
     
  23. Unkl Ian
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    I'm still missing something here.
    I only see one line running to the back.
    [​IMG]
     
  24. Unkl Ian
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    OK,just found it.[​IMG]
     
  25. Ahh..yes Unkl is see now!!!

    Okies....hmm..kinda neat!

    Maiki
     
  26. zibo
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    I remember that ride up at the chrr party last year.
    there are some good ideas.

    wondered if he had a wild ROTH nose for it yet.

    tp aka zibo
     
  27. TV
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    The head pipes come down by the header, and the pump runs through the channel of the frame,you just can't see it. This systom must have an electric in bed, or the pasg side won't cool, I guess????--TV [​IMG]
     
  28. Muttley
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    [ QUOTE ]
    That's it. One pump, no plumbing leading away from the motor that I can see, somehow I'm not buying "Radiators' in the bed" anymore. Do you know if it was driven to CHRR? Was it driven to Bonneville? At Bonneville?


    [/ QUOTE ]

    The radiator IS in the bed, I was at the March Meet and saw it with my own 2 eyes. That R/PU is BADASSSS! [​IMG]
     
  29. Kilroy
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    Sometimes when you try to build a better mouse trap you end up with a bastard child spawned from a cluster fuck...
    [​IMG]
    I don't really hate it as bad as all that but I do have to ask the question "Why?"

    That car would look so much meaner with a cut down A radiator and shell. They're cheap, plentiful, and cool looking.

    As it is he cant even "...drive it too far."

    That ain't cool...

    It's a unique idea that solves nothing and doesn't work that well...

    If there's a point there, I don't get it. [​IMG]

    Nice work though.
     
  30. TV
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    Kilroy, I love your thoughts,FORM OR FUNCTION which is it? And the sun will still come up anyway.---TV [​IMG] Did anyone notice the belt riding on the cross over pipe?
     

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