well i got the 55 all painted flat black,, looks pretty good in rustoleum.. so the i gotta mess withit. i didnt like the fact that everytime your rub it with something it leaves a polished mark on the otherwise perfectly flat finish... and i thought maybe i wanted some protection,, and well you know me,,, cant leave anything well enuf alone ... so i decided to get some wax.. need protection from the elements, god knows it will be raining here in the pac nw for the next 6 months,, so i tried mcguires yellow wax,,, god what a friggin mess.... blotchy, nasty looking looks like a patchwork quilt made by an old blind lady... out of greasy rags... shit... so i guess i could have used the wax remover, but ... nooooooo... cant do that... that would have been too easy.... so.... got out the 320 wet paper, a bottle of water, and started on the top,, then to 400... didnt have anything else to use so i stopped there,, rewaxed it... and power buffed the wax to get it on uniform,,, cant understand how anyone gets yellow carnuba on uniform by hand,,, i find it impossible... but the power orbital buffer smoothes it out,, and the power rotary lays down the shine... now... i have this.. (see pic),, i guess i have all winter to block the body out color sanding my fingers off, and waxing.... i remember when rodding was alot more fun,, maybe because i didnt worry so much about how things looked... guess i wont have flat black anymore, oh well... i guess there are too many flat black cars out there anymore anyway. one thing about it i am becoming an expert at using rustoleum... bob
I think many get Rustoleum mixed up with other auto paints I think it should be used as a low cost coating during driving and working on the car- I would never try to wax or buff rustoleum at all - its a tough coating after curing - but really is best left "as sprayed"-just my opinion.
i am with you choprod, i should have mixed half and half with gloss then maybe it wouldnt have shown every litte rub spot as a shiney spot... i dunno,, do automotive flat blacks also show rub marks as bad??,, every time a get something against the car it burnish's it and leaves a shiney spot... after color sanding, and smoothing it buffs well and takes wax just fine,, i know i should just leave it alone and drive the crap our of it... or maybe should i just take a scotch brite pad to it once in a while to even up the color? what do you think? bob
I think you should have sprayed it with the rustoleum. Let it dry. Then when you know its damn good and dry, Spray a generic "Tire Wetter" spray on it. The stuff is about like baby oil, but sorta drys like a wax. It makes the surface semi shiny and plus It makes it very uniform. You get none of those "smudges". Only problem. If it should rain on the car.......blah....it looks like shit and you get an oily film all over your windows..... But the good thing is. You just clean the windows and respray the body with tire wet and everything looks great again. I spray a little on the panel I am working on and then take a clean t-shirt, or a nice rag of some sort and wipe the stuff into the surface. That way you get an even coat. It makes the finish look very BLACK too. Not dark gray like flat black tends to look.... Hope this helps. BTW...If you wanna see a pic of the results take a look at this. This is a pic my car as it JUST got a coat of tire wet. It dries a little duller than that pic.... LOOK HERE: TIRE WET FINISH LATER, JT.
hey thats not bad,, but it rains alot here all winter, so maybe i should look into the wax that is liguid that you add to your rinse water,, maybe that would do the trick.. is your car painted with rustoleum? bob
Yep it is. I bought a gallon from Lowes for around $ 22.00 and shot it through a Wagoner electric house sprayer. Total cost $40.00 JT.
VonT-- how well of a finish did you achieve with the Wagner PowerPro? I've wondered about that! Just like using Mom's Hoover back in the day...
A tip from my muscle car days is to use Pledge, spray furniture wax on flat black for a nice lemoney fresh finish. hope this helps, Steve
he heh, The Wagoner paint system is not so good. There is a "texture" to the paint. I don't mind it particularly, but some people would not want it. I just wanted to paint the car all at once and my compressor is so small that I can only paint a fender or a door before it starts running continuously (burning up the motor). So I got out the Wagoner painter and went to town. And actually if you thin the paint a good deal, It goes on much smoother. I just didn't thin it enough. Oh well, live and learn. I still like it. JT.
Rustoluem RULES. OK, so it's not a "pro" finish... but hot damn i love the stuff. Been experimenting with other clear coat finishes over the stuff... as well as mixes... hardening... fogging... "candies"... and other stuff in the works Yeah, it's not a "real" car paint... but it fits the budget, can look pretty damn decent, and lasts slightly longer than my attention span... found out the same thing about the yellow wax... the "color coded" waxes are even worse... In a pinch, olive oil works great for some sheen- but the horse flys wont leave the car alone... armor all is OK, but streaks kinda funny in the sun...
yup i really like the stuff myaelf, fun to play with, and cheap... i found a site last night from the uk where guys are brush painting old MG's with it, and sanding it out, buffing and polishing it up to a nice shine,, i guess it works for them too... bob