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Satin clear coat questions....need help

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Jerry Reed, Nov 17, 2003.

  1. Jerry Reed
    Joined: Jul 14, 2003
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    I'm sick of the boring flat black primer on the bottom half of my 53 chevy, so I think I want to paint it a satin pearl blue or red. Anybody know what brand or brands of satin clear or clear flattener work best? Do you just shot it on after the pearl base coat like regular clear? Who makes the best pearl base coat? Also pics of cars done in a satin finish would be really cool. I know it's alot of questions, but I hope somebody can help. Thanks for the help!!!
     
  2. Greezy
    Joined: May 11, 2002
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    Im not trying to be a smart ass here but why would you use a pearl base then want to dull it up. Just wondering. If I was going to spend the money for pearl I'd let that shit shine.
     
  3. Ayers Garage
    Joined: Nov 28, 2002
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    My 54 Chevy is painted semi flat orange. PPG basecoat and PPG clearcoat with PPG flattening agent in the clear. Initially, it came out too shiny, but a scotchbrite fixed that.

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  4. Detonator
    Joined: Jun 25, 2001
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    HH -- do you remember what percentage of flattener you mixed in? And what percentage you'd recommend?
     
  5. Jerry Reed
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    That satin orange looks killer. That's pretty much the look I'm after. I heard PPG makes a flattened clear that is supposed to work awesome. Anybody ever use it? I don't want it to be a flat finish. I want a nice satin....some shine, just not too shiny.
     
  6. Ayers Garage
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    That picture was taken 5 years after we shot it. The stuff is durable.

    Seems like we used 1 qt clear, 1 qt flattener, and the appropriate amount of hardener. We wound up mixing the flattener at double the rate called for I think.

    It's the stuff used to paint stuff like 85-86 Mustang GT hoods where they had that flat black stripe on them. You use the normal basecoat and clear and hardeners, you just add the flattener additive into the clear. We initially mixed it according to the guidelines, but it was too shiny. We continued to add more and more till we got it closer. The day after, it was still a little too shiny, so we used red scotchbrites to dullen it a little.

    This stuff is bombproof. It holds up to Texas 110 degree summer sun without fading or chalking.
     
  7. Detonator
    Joined: Jun 25, 2001
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    Pre-formulated flattened clear? Sounds idiot-proof. Sounds right up my alley. Tell me more.
     
  8. Jerry Reed
    Joined: Jul 14, 2003
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    Idiot-proof is exactly what I'm after. I can't remember what it was called but it was a PPG product and was flattened clear that you could add regular clear to if you wanted more shine. I was wondering if anybody has used it, and how well it works.
     
  9. overspray
    Joined: Jan 14, 2003
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    Sikkens-autoclear matte (preflattened clear) works too. It should work with any good urethane compatable basecoat. You can also add regular gloss clear to make it shine more. overspray
     
  10. It's called PPG "flat and flexed". It's a simi gloss for plastic bumpers. I like it, just about the right sheen. Don't worry about the "flexed" part, it shoots just like normal clear.
     

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