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Technical SBC in 51 Ford

Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by Richard Reed, Jan 20, 2021.

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  1. warhorseracing
    Joined: Dec 26, 2006
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    warhorseracing
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    Maybe you should check what people actually have before you make a comment.
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    My 51 Shoebox the day I got it home. Flathead V8 powered!
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    My 55 T-Bird in my garage w YOM plates and bring it home. Y Block baby!
    There are more; '29 Briggs Four Door, 34 3 Window coupe, 35 truck, '62 Falcon, '64 F 250, all Ford powered!
    If people would "Search" instead of asking the same old question day after day this would be a GREAT site!
     
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  2. RmK57
    Joined: Dec 31, 2008
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    I used the search function for a quick look see on "shoebox sbf swap". Apparently the early Bronco pan or a late model Mustang dual sump clears the center link and the crossmember. One fellow called it "practically a drop in". A company named Jamco suspensions builds the motor mounts for the swap also. The only issue was clearance using an AOD trans. Some m***aging on the trans tunnel was in order, but a c-4 should fit without problems.

    Personally I couldn't care a less what the owner installs in his 51 Ford. But before going through the trouble of cutting up oil pans or modifying crossmembers why wouldn't you do some research on this forum of what works for this swap and what doesn't with the minimal amount of work.
     
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  3. MeanGene427
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    Because of Chebbrainwashing lol
     
  4. Because searching your post history this is about all you can come up with, Repeatedly. Post up some good Ford in a Ford tech hero.
     
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  5. Marty Strode
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    Question of the day "What Would Lukas Doolin Do" ?
     
  6. F-ONE
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    1952 was a different body style with the same basic suspension steering. 1952-'54...In 54 they went to ball joints instead of kingpins.

    In case you mean 1951 like mine... [​IMG]Un***led by Travis Brown, on Flickr
    The floor is different in a 1951. This may be due to the new automatic offered in the Victorias.(the air cooled Fordomatic may have been offered in other models like the Crestliner and the Custom but I've only seen them in Victorias.) The 1951 has a different floor and uses a different floormat than the '49s and '50s.

    Here's some photos of my '51. I thought the car was an original survivor. Surprise! Surprise! It's had a big engine in it. I ***ume a long long time ago. Funny thing, the engine had original 1951 copper core Ford plug wires. Of course they were as hard as a rock.

    The floor in my car has had a lot of work at the firewall. The toe board and all around the hump is pieced together. This was something I did not know until I pulled the carpet and rubber material they had on the lower firewall....
    [​IMG]Un***led by Travis Brown, on Flickr

    The toe board is pieced together around the pedals.
    [​IMG]Un***led by Travis Brown, on Flickr
    That chunk of aluminum was hammered into to shape "kind of". I thought it was rust damage. But no the metal is solid. There was a chunk of floor missing at the junction of the transmission hump and toe board right at the accelerator pedal. It's a bunch of complex angles there and guess they could not figure it out..
    I had to make a temporary piece out of sheet metal to get the accelerator working properly.
    I don't know what I'm going to do with the toe board around the pedals yet.
    [​IMG]Un***led by Travis Brown, on Flickr
    [​IMG]Un***led by Travis Brown, on Flickr
    You can see how original the car is on the inside. It is still on 6 volts.
    [​IMG]Un***led by Travis Brown, on Flickr
    I don't know what happened here. It looks like they made clearance with an axe or a big sledge. For a distributor I guess....rear of the engine off to the p***enger side?
    [​IMG]Un***led by Travis Brown, on Flickr
    Not a good Photo but the top of the front crossmember was cut away just inboard of the flathead motor mounts. This was not visible. I only noticed it when I removed the air dam while replacing the cross-over exhaust with headers. You really can't see it. I ran my hand under the flathead and I could feel where the cross-member was cut away. This was a real common modification for oil pan clearance. The crossmember was actually reinforced pretty well with heavy plate arc welded in front and back.
    Who knows when this was done?

    It took me a while to figure out what was going on with it. While I was under the car doing the exhaust I could see the big picture. Then it made sense. I could see where the toe board and transmission hump was cut away for clearance.

    Due to the firewall, transmission hump, crossmember, and toe board modifications I believe it had Either a Lincoln or Ford Y block in it. It was pieced back together when the flathead was put back in it.
    Hombre, I know this does not really answer your question. I thought you might like to see how one was modified back then...
     
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  7. F-ONE
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  8. F-ONE
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    Ya'll may get a kick out of this....

    One of my good friends is a Ford Nut. I mean the guy is a Nut!
    To tell you what a Ford guy he is, the local Wal Mart used to have the local car dealership adverti*****ts on the buggies.
    This guy would go through the shopping buggies and only pushed a "Ford" buggy in Wal-Mart.
    He built this 1955 Ford Sedan. His goal was to build a Y block superior to any street Chevrolet.
    No expense was spared on the 312 he put in that Tudor.
    The best 312 heads...
    Top shelf machine work...
    A special order camshaft from Isky...
    Jet Hot ceramic coated racing headers...
    The best period ignition...
    Dual Quad Y block intake.....(the engine actually could use every bit of those two 4s!)
    Thunderbird Valve covers...

    By far it was the greatest YBlock Ford engine I have ever seen or heard. It was a monster.

    The first big show he goes to he got cussed by one Bleed Ford Blue Guy and chastised by many more for ruining the car by putting a Chevy!! in it.o_O
    Because the engine was not blue and did not have the distributor hanging off the front, it was a Chebbie.:rolleyes:
     
  9. PhilA
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    If it fits your pocket book, the car and your smile then what's wrong with it?

    I had an American designed, European built GM car with an English engine from a non-GM brand, American transmission and a body style that was never offered by the factory. It was great fun.
    It liked to bust up the GM rear axles too.

    Do it, the car's yours to do with as you please. Just... do it right.
     
  10. Jacksmith
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    On my '49 there was a snug, but adequate clearance for the trans, but with 3" lowering blocks I had to raise the driveshaft tunnel a bit...
     
  11. Royalshifter
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  12. Royalshifter
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