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Technical Sbc overheating need help

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rocsas, Oct 23, 2020.

  1. Budget36
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    Fan is on right. Engine turns clockwise when looking at it, so that fan will pull air through the radiator
     
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  2. Budget36
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    Good point/catch. Maybe OP has a weak starter that doesn’t spin engine over well and retarded timing to assist it?
     
  3. 2OLD2FAST
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    Retarded the timing to keep it from rattling to pieces !
     
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    Brain fart on my part - thanks for straightening me out!

    Chris
     
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  6. Kevin Ardinger
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    Years ago I did a valve job on my dad‘s 76 F150. Apparently when I took the heads off the scale broke loose and got in the radiator. Ran fine around town for a week. My brother took at the college and it ran hot and overheated at highway speed‘s all the way to South Carolina. Replace the radiator and problems solved. I have the opposite problem with my model a small block. Runs cool at speed gets warm at lights. Needs a fan shroud. Winter project.


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  7. jimmy six
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    Make sure you get a hi -flow thermostat ... there is really a big difference in restriction with them fully open...
     
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  8. woodiewagon46
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    A lot of cooling issues result from the fact that the shroud and other "tins" that were original to the vehicle are now missing. First thing I would do is install a shroud.
     
  9. pprather
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    Total timing (static plus mechanical) should be about 34-36 degrees. This will help it run cooler. Also at highway speeds a correctly working distributor vacuum advance will lower engine temp a few more degrees.
     
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  10. Deuces
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    I'd scrounge the bone yards for a genuine Chevy clutch fan..... And a shroud...
     
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  11. jimmy six
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    Non of my tri-five pickups every had a shroud. The fan was 1/2-3/4” from the radiator. The shrouds I’ve made today start from Speedway Circle Track catalog and are made from aluminum. Some I mount vertical and others horizontal. The last one was painted semigloss black and works great on a 10-1 engine with a 15” 4 blade fan.
     
  12. rocsas
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    It never went over above about 165 without the thermostat going down the highway on a hot day,

    It's on correct it's blowing towards the engine

    I ran bigger engines with that much time and never had a problem before

    I'm looking into some aluminum radiators now I might switch it out too
     
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  13. Kevin Ardinger
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    It ain’t air flow at 60 mph!


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  14. Bingo. Try both sides of the radiator when it gets hot and the truck is off.
     
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  15. rocsas
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    Radiators hot all across doesn't seem to have any cold spots
     
  16. That sucks, check the t-stat and make sure it's opening all the way or isn't partially stuck open. Last would be to check it again without the t-stat and if it's the same as before (running cool at all times) maybe cut the t-stat up and just use the flat piece as a restrictor.
     
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  17. Exsiccate
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    Yeah, it looks like there is not enough air flow through radiator at highway speed.
     
  18. Moriarity
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    this was already asked but seemingly ignored. Is there a spring in the lower hose? grab the hose and squeeze it. If there is not a spring the hose will suck itself flat at speed and cut off flow. fans and shrouds have nothing to do with overheating on the freeway....
     
  19. rocsas
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    It has a spring in the lower hose it doesn't seem to be collapsing,

    I just picked up a new thermostat housing that's supposed to be higher flow, I mean from the looks of it it looks pretty high flow compared to a stock one, I'm also installing the heater tonight so those hoses will be hooked up as well even though I still had a bypass hose going from one of the other
     
  20. rocsas
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    I put a new mister gasket thermostat in it and it's supposed to flow twice as much and changed the rad cap and the thermostat housing, I also hooked up the heater core, I took it for a spirited drive around town but we will see tonight what happens when I hit the highway
     
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  21. 2OLD2FAST
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    So ..what happened ?
     
  22. Mr48chev
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    Plugged radiator either inside or out and possible air flowing around the radiator rather than through it. 57  from back side_LI (2).jpg
     
  23. rocsas
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    Sorry for the late reply on this I've been busy after doing that stuff I talked about it hasn't once overheated again even sitting in traffic it does good I have a 180 thermostat in it and it never goes above 180
     
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  24. Elcohaulic
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    I wonder if there is a lot of oil sludge build up from not using a thermostat..

    I would use a Stant SuperStat in 160..
     
  25. gsnort
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    Did anyone mention a water pump is possibly on the way out?
     
  26. FRANK GRELLE
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    I the pictures of the moter i see were the temp gauge goes in at the manifold ,but there is nothing hooked to it,were is your sender for your gauge?
     
  27. jnaki
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    Hello,

    My wife and I had two SBC motor cars overheat during our road trips South and North along the coastline in the summer. One, it was warmer, so the warm air kept things hot. The A/C in both cars worked overtime. The third car earlier 65 El Camino finally had an overheating problem, at 120k miles. No problems up to that time. But, it also did not have A/C. The 65 El Camino was a 327. The 40 sedan delivery also had a 327 with A/C. the third car had 350 with a 4 barrel.
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    The 65 El Camino needed a new thermostat. That was all it took for another 5k miles until we sold it at 125k miles to a young surfer/sailor in Dana Point. Simple and easy. The 40 Ford Sedan Delivery had no problems for about 1ok miles. Then it started to overheat even on cold days on a flat highway so, again, all took was the thermostat. So, two over heatings in two Chevy v8 motors solved with a change in thermostats.
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    The 350 c.i. motor had a/c and was always running hot on the temp scale. But, one time I had to replace a thermostat and that kept the temps normal. But, long grade hill climbs (Conejo Grade on 101 freeway , the Torrey Pines Hill Grade past the shoreside city of Del Mar and the very long I-5 freeway coming into Los Angeles from the Bakersfield area with a steep climb for miles to the top) with full A/C on and traffic will cause overheating on any factory A/C systems.

    Despite a running start coming from Bakersfield on the I-5 freeway, we only got partially up the hill grade in slow traffic before we overheated. It was at least 100 outside.

    We sat until the motor got cool and we were able to drive back home taking the level coastal route. The next week, we had to replace the thermostat as the first thing and we never had the overheating problem again.

    Jnaki

    So, changing thermostats seems like the first thing folks do to see if it does not correct the overheating problem. Nothing fancy, remove, replace and hook up. As anyone does this, check for a loose fan belt or belts and a full radiator.

    After replacing the thermostat does not work, then the next step is a new water pump. This time, a radiator removal, as well as the fan + all belts are steps to move along. A couple of bolts and the water pump comes off. Most auto parts stores have replacements.

    Sorry you are having overheating problems. No one likes to be stuck on the side of the road. But, worse comes to worse, have your AAA card handy as they are everywhere and can help.YRMV

     

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