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Technical SBC REAR MAIN SEAL LEAK

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by bodymanmp, Jul 9, 2023.

  1. bodymanmp
    Joined: Dec 2, 2004
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    HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THE REAR MAIN SEAL IN MY CAR
    SBC
    I HAVE REPLACED IT 2 TIMES AND IT STILL LEAKS
    USED FELPRO SEAL BOTH TIMES
    STAGGERED THE SEAL
    PUT SEALANT ON THE ENDS
    AND IT IS NOT INSTALLED BACKWARDS !!
    ANY IDEAS ???
    THANKS
     
  2. squirrel
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    Is the crank grooved from wear? Did you put a sealer such as Permatex Aviation sealer on the area around the seal, where the cap meets the block? Why did you put sealer on the ends of the seal, it is not needed there?

    Is it a 400 that has been line honed?
     
  3. squirrel
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    I remembered to take a picture of the last one I did, a 327, last month. This one does not leak. Seal is offset about 1/4", no sealer on the ends of the seal, sealer on the block where the cap meets it, crank is in good condition, seal is facing the correct direction.

    rear main.jpg
     
  4. 427 sleeper
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    Are you sure it's not the oil pan end-seal that's leaking? Never had a problem with leak's after I switched to the one piece pan gasket's.
     
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  5. Glenn Thoreson
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    If using the original style pan gasket be sure you put a dab of sealer on the ends of the wrap around gasket on the ends. Sealing compounds don't adhere well to those nitrile seal ends. It could be washing out. Old style rope seals should be left a bit long (a 16") so the crush will help secure a good seal. Permatex High Tack gasket sealer is the best I've found. The little can with the red goo. A little bit goes a long way. Don't overdo it. The old black Permatex form-a-gasket takes a long time to stop being a liquid. That's not very good for standing up to heat. It tends to run , hence the wash out theory. Fine for cork gaskets, not so fine for rubber, plastics and other non-porous materials. Don't forget to oil the seal lip and/or the shaft when installing.
     
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  6. bodymanmp
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    JUST ORDERED A 1 SLIT REAR MAIN SEAL FROM GST
    NOT CHEAP BUT SHOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM
    THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP
     
  7. Budget36
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    Can you post a link to the part you ordered?
     
  8. bodymanmp
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    GST RACING SEALS
    CAN BE BOUGHT FROM FAST FISH AUTO PARTS
    IN NORTH CAROLINA
    AND THERE IS A VIEDO ON YOU TUBE A GUY INSTALLING ONE ON A SBC REAR MAIN SEAL
    NOT CHEAP BUT LOOKS LIKE IT WORKS GOOD
     
  9. Ebbsspeed
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    @bodymanmp I know you have one of these on your PC, because your screen name is in lower case. Could you do us a favor and press it one time?

    Caps Lock.jpg
     
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  10. bodymanmp
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  11. dalesnyder
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    I have seen a poorly functioning pcv system lead to oil leaks. Excessive crankcase pressure will push oil past the seal.
     
  12. Budget36
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    That’s the nicest way I have ever seen this brought up.
    Well done.
     
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  13. Johnny Gee
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  14. Budget36
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    Wondering how it goes in/procedure? Will it fit over the flywheel/flexplate flange?

    I guess it does, but not building engines daily. ;)
     
  15. Johnny Gee
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    See the split? 32F5A422-9D65-4ECB-A12B-F286039CD664.png
     
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  16. 427 sleeper
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    I don't think you can replace it with the crank in the block, not sure the crank will drop down far enough to let it roll in.
     
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  18. Dan from Oakland
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    Have the mains been reground? If the leak persists, put an indicator on the seal surface and see how much runout you have.
     
  19. theHIGHLANDER
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    This was one of my 1st thoughts as well. That and whether or not it's a mullered up pan gasket relationship.
     
  20. tractorguy
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    Has it been confirmed that the galley plugs in the back of the block are not leaking ??
     
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  21. bodymanmp
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    the galley plugs are not leaking,and i use a 1 piece pan gasket that does not leak,crank looks great also
     
  22. ekimneirbo
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    That does look like a much better way to do it........
     
  23. JGT
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    Do you have an update on your ream mail seal leak? Did you get the problem resolved? If so, what did you do?
     
  24. sdluck
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    FPP-2900 rear main has it been align honed?2909 if not.
     
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  25. Kevin Ardinger
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    Put a Kotex pad under it with magnets like I did. I’m too lazy to pull the engine out! One day I will.
     
  26. Hotwyr
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    I fought a leak on the big block in my Corvette last year. Engine I bought and did not assemble myself. Went through all the steps you have. I finally put sealer between the rear main cap and block. Not a drop since.
     
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