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Hot Rods Sealing fe manifolds

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by pie pie, Jan 27, 2011.

  1. TooManyFords
    Joined: May 21, 2008
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    TooManyFords
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    from Peotone IL

    Put a straight edge on it. Smooth and flat are two different things. Head set is only 66 dollars. I did not to tear mine down either but I dont want to do it again next year. When holding manifold to head with no gasket does it lay flat? If not it is only a matter of time before it blows again. Back to finishing mine.
     
  2. iamflashman
    Joined: May 11, 2007
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    Check them with a straight edge just to be sure. You can spray a little paint on them and then use a flat file to check. If there are spots that still have paint, those are low spots. Just like bodywork!
     
  3. willowbilly3
    Joined: Jun 18, 2004
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    from Sturgis

    I used a sanding block with some good 50-80 grit to clean the head surface. I have an old plastic long board for body work that helps clean them flat. The manifolds are pretty easy to deal with off the vehicle. A big belt sander works pretty good, or a machine shop.
    The top bolts are the biggest labor. On my last 390, I left it set a week or so and every time I walked past it I sprayed some more PB blaster and tapped with a hammer. I still had several bolts that just wouldn't come loose.
     
  4. pie pie
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    pie pie
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    from missouri

    Well the bolts came right out but the manifold is still attached at the pipe. Bolts didn't look to good and since I'm pressed for time I don't want to rake a chance on breaking bolts
     
  5. pie pie
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    pie pie
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    from missouri

    They were warped bad it seems. With the side bolts instead of top and bottom it's hard to get the top to seal. With a little bit of rtv I hope it seals. I will start it in the morning. Does anyone have suggestions for good intake gaskets to use?
     
  6. MeanGene427
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    from Napa

    Side or top and bottom, if they're not straight, they're probably going to crack after a while if you force them "in place'. And it would appear that you may have a later 66-69 390GT engine in there, as your car should have top & bottom bolt manifolds, not side-to-side- what's the casting code from between the center spark plugs? Something like CxxE 6090-x
     
  7. TooManyFords
    Joined: May 21, 2008
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    TooManyFords
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    from Peotone IL

    Mine is done. My surfaces were flat and no gasket. I love that sound or lack there of.:)
     
  8. pie pie
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    pie pie
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    from missouri

    I'm trying to remember and I think it's c6mea. I'll check in the morning
     
  9. 296 V8
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    296 V8
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    For 7 years I kept 16 to 18 ford trucks on the road all w FE’s.
    Stopping exhaust leaks was a major problem at first until I got totally***** about it.

    Have your manifolds shot peaned and surfaced and use new grade 8 bolts.
    As for gaskets, most any will work fine ….. The key is keeping them tight. Grade 5 bolts go soft from the heat and you will burn gaskets instantly.
    The best gaskets iv used lately are the solid aluminum header gaskets.
     
  10. Cliffy
    Joined: Oct 21, 2001
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    If I've done 1 I've done 100, they all leak. All the gaskets in the world won't help if they are warped. The ONLY way to do it right is take the heads off, have them milled on the exhaust flange surface and have the manifolds surfaced. I usually see about 4 or 5 FE engines with this leaky problem in my shop each year.
     
  11. shocker998md
    Joined: May 17, 2009
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    I just used the felpro metal gaskets on a set of headers on my 352. I replaced all the bolts with grade 8 bolts, and tightened them after every time I drove it for two weeks. It sealed up pretty good. I also put a small amount of copper high temp sealant on both sides of the gasket in the corner of the ports.

    Next time I think I will use the remflex gaskets, just because they are more forgiving for any imperfections in the head or manifold.
     
  12. pie pie
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    pie pie
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    from missouri

    Well I think it quit leaking at the heads but I think it may be leaking at the pipe. It kind of makes a rattling sound from underneath the car. There isn't any clearance issues I can find. Just got a good leak at the muffler now. It sounds like it may have a small cam
     
  13. iamflashman
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    I once heard that a picture of an FE leaks oil. I guess that picture leaks exhaust too!

    I never had a truly exhaust leak free FE until I put aluminum heads and headers on my current car.
     
  14. pie pie
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    pie pie
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    from missouri

    Ok so now the wedding is over and I'm going to start gathering parts to rebuild the top end. What kind of intake gaskets do you guys recommend?
     
  15. Von Dago
    Joined: Feb 13, 2007
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    Von Dago
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    from New Jersey

    Shouldn't you be on your honeymoon? :D

    And Congratulations!
     
  16. pie pie
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    pie pie
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    from missouri

    We just went for a couple days. Thanks!
     
  17. SquireDon
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    SquireDon
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    from Oregon

    If both your heads and manifolds have been surfaced, you don't need to run with gaskets. Just use FelPro MS95000 or Corteco 18072 metal heat shields.
     
  18. pie pie
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    pie pie
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    from missouri

    Sorry to keep changing but I was talking about the intake
     
  19. jonly
    Joined: Mar 15, 2010
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    the installation of the fel pro gaskets for my 390 actually called for rtv on the corners of the intake
     
  20. iamflashman
    Joined: May 11, 2007
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    iamflashman
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    I use the victo reinz intake gaskets from carquest. They work rather well.
     
  21. "Whitey Ford" 62 Uni
    Joined: Mar 5, 2008
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    "Whitey Ford" 62 Uni
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    from Tampa, FL

    i went through about 3 different types of gaskets on mine and finally worked with the header gaskets. I ahve a set of extra fel pro I can sell ya for 5 bucks. The fel pro worked on first rebuild.
     

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