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SEMA- I took in alot- But still dont swallow

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by cole, Nov 8, 2003.

  1. cole
    Joined: Mar 12, 2001
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    Was very impressed with the size of the aftermarket industry, was disappointed with the creative and "clone" of parts, so much money spent out there on companies and on special projects from FORD, GM, ect.........talent pool seems very small, One person from the custom/streetrod world had something like 10 cars there and is the King of SEMA...... but anyone that knows more then Whats written on showcards .......the guy cant do anything mech\paint\fab.....hires artist, then builders, painters...ect.......and is the most respected DESIGNER/BUILDER there? I looked into doing some Project work for,GM-Ford........and they make it so hard to meet the great OZ that its not worth me chasing it.

    There is some very nice stuff there.

    IM just going to stick to my ways, do what I like.

    Its wild that basketball and rappers have dictated automotive industry so much.....same as if I have to hear orange county choppers builds nice bikes.....they dont build bikes. They assemble bikes, then hang bullshit off it.

    TV is the teacher and gospel to most people. If your on TV your good, and everything is truth.

    The best basketball players are in the NBA period, cause it cost nothing to play and just talent to play.

    As far as most other sports and even professions go, money, parents time, and location dictate, if you think the best guys in the world are driving the indy 500 and pro motto cross? Small group of kids get the opportunity to try or have parents with time and $$ enough to give to there kids.

    So I better get back to the BLING BLING chopper IM building starting today, and iv changed my name .....so call me MC master C from now on and ill see ya on cribs soon. IM out- mcmc
     
  2. Skate Fink
    Joined: Jul 31, 2001
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    "King Cole Snizzle" [​IMG]
     
  3. Fat Hack
    Joined: Nov 30, 2002
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    Cole be thuggin'...rollin' some bling-bling...gonna go big-time! [​IMG]

     
  4. FeO2
    Joined: Dec 23, 2002
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    Now you're catching on!I love it when someone finally sees the light! [​IMG]
     
  5. Tuck
    Joined: May 14, 2001
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    Tuck
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    from MINNESOTA

    The yellow brick road...

    The OZ is for people like Britney Spears and Fred Durst... some people spend their whole life sniffing OZ's balls, I'd rather spend it scratching my own...

    P.I.M.P. MCMC
    ROCK OUT~

     
  6. DrJ
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    If what you want to do doesn't have wide potential for big profits then GM or Ford don't want to bother with it.
    They want the bling bucks.

    It's not about the art.
    It's not about the cars.
    It;s not about the quality of design.
    It's all about the profitability.
    If good design was making big dollars it would be selling, but the Bling Bling is selling so that's all we're going to see more of, at least untill Mc Donalds quits using rap music to sell hamburgers.
    If it doesn't make money it's nowhere to SEMA-think
    Too bad, some people think SEMA represents OUR interests!?!

    Ethics and good design won't make you rich in a VDO market.
    Too bad,to.... [​IMG]
     
  7. lesabre59
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    Build what YOU want, how YOU want and you will never have to justify the results. Simplicity, sublty and taste win everytime
     
  8. DrJ
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    Cole,
    And the rest of you...Read the interview with Chip Foose in the nov. 10 AutoWeek.
    He talks about design integrity, and other things that make timely sense along Cole's post topic.
     
  9. Deyomatic
    Joined: Apr 17, 2002
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    "I'm the best you can get
    Have you guessed me yet?
    I'm the slime oozin' out
    From your TV set " -Frank Zappa

     
  10. Evel
    Joined: Jun 25, 2002
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    Hey cole did you happen to see the Mad Fabricators Trailer at the Rod and Custom booth????

    did you see the updated trailer with you in it???
    See site below....

    Evel
     
  11. Missing Link
    Joined: Sep 9, 2002
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    [ QUOTE ]
    same as if I have to hear orange county choppers builds nice bikes.....they dont build bikes. They assemble bikes, then hang bullshit off it.


    [/ QUOTE ]

    I catch what your tossin' out cole, but that statement is just so obviously true. It amazes me how the masses will lemming-ize themselves to the television and believe that "coolness" is dictated by the mainstream media.
     
  12. AnimalAin
    Joined: Jul 20, 2002
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    Yeah, it is about making money, but the four-cam V8 Focus in the Ford booth was still pretty cool. The deal is really overwhelming, but there is lotsa evidence that just because you can shoot paint well doesn't mean you have any taste...... There were plenty of cool items and cars, though.
     
  13. Germ
    Joined: Apr 11, 2001
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    Did you get the pictures I sent you?
    INDIANA will enjoy them also.

    SEMA-N show??

    It Feels good to walk amoungst a CROWD of " PERFORMANCE followers" and Look them in the eye, with a SMILE on your face... While DEEP DEEP inside of your SOUL,, you know you are HIDING the ETERNAL NEGRO, and that at ANY moment, that NEGRO can Come out and CONQUER with DEVIOUS means, anything that clouds it's VISION of DESTRUCTION....

    My NEGRO SOUL spent the weekend, making CRANK CALLS to FATHERFURY, and HIDING the AX, that LIZZY BORDEN, used to destroy the OLD CHICKEN CAGE,, we use to hide the STOLEN harley PARTS in............

    Cole DID you wear your PINKY RING?
    You and INDIANA are invited to my gig with the fashion FUCKS in SANFRAN...

    I will send you a TELEGRAM,,

    KISSES.
    GERM-AN SOLDIERS FOR THE BLITZKRIEG
     
  14. Fastsporty
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    I thought I saw you there. The SEMA show was overwhelming I think I only got through a third of it.(I was walking around selling my wares[photography]). I swear the same girls that were modeling at the show were at Cheetahs strip club later that night. My highlights were seeing and hearing a real GT40 and that brushed AC was pretty cool, now I want to chrome my jack stands. I have some pics that I will post later.
     
  15. LIMEY
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    Just carry on doing what you're doing as anyone with half a brain knows where you're coming from!
    Shoulda parked your bike outside that woulda fucked with their heads, the gossip would have been "which box's did that come out of" [​IMG]
     
  16. old beet
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    YA just can't beat "CUBIC MONEY"...........OLDBEET
     
  17. oddrod
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  18. ESnacky6
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    Those who 'get it', get it...

    those who don't 'get it', most likely never will...


     
  19. colorado51
    Joined: Feb 24, 2003
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    [ QUOTE ]
    So I better get back to the BLING BLING chopper IM building starting today, and iv changed my name .....so call me MC master C from now on and ill see ya on cribs soon. IM out- mcmc

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Hey come on, you gotta have a Z in your name to be cool and trendy!

    `Colez Rodz and Chopperz`

    I used to go to the SEMA show when I worked at Kenz and Leslie. I thought is was pretty cool, but that was quite a few years ago, im sure its a lot different now.....

    Keep doing YOUR thing.
     
  20. hotrodladycrusr
    Joined: Sep 20, 2002
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    Obviously SEMA is not the event for the traditional at heart but since it was brought up, here are some photos from the Project33 sight.
     
  21. Deyomatic
    Joined: Apr 17, 2002
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    Did any of you guys see this car there? My buddy is a big time Dodge Turbo guy and he emailed this to me. Anyone have any info on it?
     
  22. Yeah Cole- But do we wanna be like their posterboys-I dont think so,they really dont look that happy........we probably wouldnt trade places with em.
     
  23. mikes51
    Joined: Oct 4, 2001
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Obviously SEMA is not the event for the traditional at heart but since it was brought up, here are some photos from the Project33 sight.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Thanks HRLCruzer, lots of eye candy there.
     
  24. Dirty Dug
    Joined: Jan 11, 2003
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    Don't expect the kind of recognition you deserve until you're dead. Is that worth it?
     
  25. cole
    Joined: Mar 12, 2001
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    cole
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    DrJ-words of wisdom.

    I guess I dont like sitting on the bench much.

    For years I was stuck loking overthe fence at alot of shops and people getting to do great projects and I couldnt get even one, I did my 54 chevy pretty nice ,thinking that would work.....almost 10 years and a call from zz top to do a custom......billy dissapeared. then a local guy walked in and wanted a F-100 done, mhe wasnt a show car guy but said he wanted it as nice as possible......I pushed it as far as he would go.

    Then had a shot at a bike- pushed it too.

    I just walk down the rows of products and cars and think "why didnt they call me" "cant they see what I see"

    I just want to play.

    But Im sure there is plenty of people that have talent that havent even got the chances I have.

    these companies have big $ and manpower to seek out the best people ,even if it takes some looking and asking around , they would end up hero's if they would do there homework and not just use the same group of three .

    And dosent anyone go up to OZ and say " you know you hired nilley vanilly or what ever the lip sinkers name is"

    OK done talk'n CF
     
  26. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    [ QUOTE ]
    these companies have big $ and manpower to seek out the best people

    [/ QUOTE ] They must be looking for something else.Candy coating has become more important than substance in many circles.
     
  27. nor cal nic
    Joined: Feb 26, 2003
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    yea, but how about that RICK DORE?
    nic
     
  28. Nads
    Joined: Mar 5, 2001
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    from Hypocrisy

    SEMA.

    Spurious Emanations from Moneyed Assholes.
     
  29. cleatus
    Joined: Mar 1, 2002
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    from Sacramento

    A long-time friend and old racing buddy of mine wanted me to bring my car down and put it in his booth for SEMA (his company put together the Ford 9" for it - which I traded him graphic design work for).

    I felt bad turning him down, but I just pictured day after day of people walking by and making snide comments along the lines of "what's THAT pile of crap doing here - there aint a single trick part on it"

    SEMA is all about the bling-bling and I don't got even one bling.
     
  30. OGNC
    Joined: May 13, 2003
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    About the only thing SEMA is good for is running into old friends and making your feet hurt. I have to say that the best part of the whole deal is buckleing down with a couple of good friends and building something for the show. The years that I have been involved in a project have been great and the years I haven't have been a bore. So, I can totally see where Cole is coming from. Hopefully after this year's project (read huge pain in the ass), next year we'll have a little more than 50 days to pull the rabbit out of the hat.
     

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